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Here is the information for the website for the 2007 Am Worlds in Milwaukee.

http://2007amworlds.com/

Looking forward to that for sure.

As a web designer though I can't say that I like the website, especially the navigation.

There seems to be a theme among a lot of web designers that they want big picture, small area for content.  I don't get it either.  It was cool to see this information though, I doubt any of the new courses will be playable over winter just like Dreztka.  That's unfortunate.  I'll have to check them out as soon as I can next year though!

Quote from: tacimala on November 01, 2006, 07:42:01 AM
Looking forward to that for sure.

As a web designer though I can't say that I like the website, especially the navigation.

I am assuming that we are looking at a work in progress.  I did not see any titles for the buttons until you activated the button.  Most of the pages lacked any info because its still pretty early. The most important thing they had was the dates.  Of course, that info is already on the PDGA website.  I did note that the Amworlds website indicates that they plan to start on Sunday.  The PDGA site said it started on Monday the last time I looked.  I suspect that had something done and figured it was worthwhile to publish it rather than let it sit.  Of course, I am a glass half full guy.

Quote from: Chainmeister on November 01, 2006, 08:05:05 AM

Quote from: tacimala on November 01, 2006, 07:42:01 AM
Looking forward to that for sure.

As a web designer though I can't say that I like the website, especially the navigation.

I am assuming that we are looking at a work in progress.  I did not see any titles for the buttons until you activated the button.  Most of the pages lacked any info because its still pretty early. The most important thing they had was the dates.  Of course, that info is already on the PDGA website.  I did note that the Amworlds website indicates that they plan to start on Sunday.  The PDGA site said it started on Monday the last time I looked.  I suspect that had something done and figured it was worthwhile to publish it rather than let it sit.  Of course, I am a glass half full guy.

They need to have the website active by a certain date as part of their agreements with the PDGA. Most Worlds TDs have chosen to get the site up before that date so that they can start plugging in information as it is available and then its also one thing they can check off as complete on their agreement check list.

Usually the first round of Worlds is on Monday with check-in and field games on Sunday.

Quote from: stpitner on November 01, 2006, 07:47:47 AM
...It was cool to see this information though, I doubt any of the new courses will be playable over winter just like Dreztka.  That's unfortunate.  I'll have to check them out as soon as I can next year though!

Dineen Park is currently in the ground and is playable. They've already held an event there for the Great Lakes Disc Golf Club. If I'm not mistaken, the courses stay in through winter, however, get pulled in early spring as things start to "defrost." If you haven't heard anything about Dineen Park, it used to be an old par 3 "ball" golf course. If you need directions here is a link (http://www.wisconsingolfonline.com/directory/coursedetail.cfm?recordid=4") to the old golf course site.

Take a look at the PDGA Discussion board under the Great Lakes DGC section for information about the course: NEW COURSES IN WISCONSIN (http://www.pdga.com/msgboard/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=596615&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1&vc=1")

thanks for the info :)  I'm headed up to Milwaukee Nov 18th (I think) so I'll have to check out Dineen Park!

Heard a rumor that Brown Deer is scheduled to go in on Nov. 11th...  same day as big paw.

any thoughts on when one should make hotel reservation

Just count on the host hotel filling up a week or two after the invites go out in March.

Quote from: airspuds on November 01, 2006, 03:41:04 PM
any thoughts on when one should make hotel reservation

You might as well book it now if you plan to come up.  Like most reservation systems, your credit card will be used just to HOLD the reservation and you will not be charged until that week. 

There are 2 options - a slightly cheaper (primary) host hotel that is a little closer to 3 of the four courses (for about $55 plus tax per night) or going south a few exits and getting a nicer exit with many more options for food and amenities such as a mall (for about $85 per night).  Both hotels are listed on the website. 

414.535.1300 for the 55 dollar rooms - La Quinta
414.778.0333 for the 85 dollar rooms - Holiday Inn Express


BOTH WILL FILL so eventually we might have to get a third hotel involved!

On a side note - this is in fact a very busy WI weekend.
Tomorrow morning we need help putting Brown Deer in the ground - 36 anchors plus tees.
The Big Paw is taking place at Parkside in the afternoon.  (come to Brown Deer just for a short time to help if you can)
Also the annual Summit it taking place in Stevens Point.  Busy weekend!

Here is the Invite List.
http://www.pdga.com/documents/2007/2007invites.php

Get on the wait list if you are not on the initial invite list if you plan to play.

Yay I'm in!

Kelsey has a leadership training graduation ceremony that weekend so we are definately out.  That's four more spots for the rest of you.  She has been doing this thing that is a lot like Eagle Scouts but is with the Pioneer Girls and apparently its a bigger deal than Worlds.   :-\ 

Five Brakels and 1 Chaumont invited! Cool.  O0

Where do we sign up?  Do we get a form from the pdga?

I'm in too

Quote from: DougEDawg on February 15, 2007, 01:33:49 PM
Where do we sign up?  Do we get a form from the pdga?

Make sure your contact info is up to date with the PDGA (like if you've moved or changed e-mail addy since renewing your PDGA membership). They e-mail invite packets to everyone that has earned a spot. They snail mail everyone that they do not have an e-mail addy for.

I'm IN!!!!!!

I already requested the time off work.  I'm gonna have to start practicing my putting a little more.  Can't wait!

Using up half of my 2007 vacation days for this.  Gotta get up to Milwaukee and practice!

Anyone know how long of a drive it is to the worlds courses from Round Lake?  I'm torn between reserving a hotel room and just driving it each day.  For 50-80 bucks a night, I can deal with some driving.  Since I've never been to anything like this, any suggestions?

You're probably looking at a 1 to 1 1/2 hour drive each way from Round Lake up to the northern part of Milwaukee.  Traffic around Milwaukee generally isn't too bad, but you do have to watch your speed as you travel along I-94, especially right across the border and as well as Racine County.  The speeding ticket prices are OUTRAGEOUS if you get one in Racine county (and I'll still dispute what speed he had me clocked at lol).  The speed limit is 65 and you can do 70 without any problems though.

I can't speak as far as if it would be better to stay in a hotel or not.  I haven't played in a multi-day tournament before and I am not invited to this one.  If I were playing and had the cash to afford it, then I would say yes, do it because you want to give yourself the maximum amount of time to rest and recouperate before the next day.  All the extra driving the wears you down.  If the place has a pool or hot tub or some place to relax and unwind as well, all the better.

If you work gas costs into it, you're probably driving about 130-140 miles round trip.  That's probably half a tank of gas since a lot of it highway miles.  So that's about what, $15-$20 a day depending on what you drive.  Definitely cheaper than a hotel, but it's up to a 3-hour commitment each day for $15-$20.

Quote from: discmonkey on February 16, 2007, 03:21:28 PM
Anyone know how long of a drive it is to the worlds courses from Round Lake?  I'm torn between reserving a hotel room and just driving it each day.  For 50-80 bucks a night, I can deal with some driving.  Since I've never been to anything like this, any suggestions?

Tim,

This is a premier event. Find 3 guys to split a hotel room with you for the week. You want to stay at the host hotel if possible. It's a great experience and you'll remember it for a long time. Trust me on this one.

Quote from: CEValkyrie on February 16, 2007, 03:46:59 PM

Quote from: discmonkey on February 16, 2007, 03:21:28 PM
Anyone know how long of a drive it is to the worlds courses from Round Lake?  I'm torn between reserving a hotel room and just driving it each day.  For 50-80 bucks a night, I can deal with some driving.  Since I've never been to anything like this, any suggestions?

Tim,

This is a premier event. Find 3 guys to split a hotel room with you for the week. You want to stay at the host hotel if possible. It's a great experience and you'll remember it for a long time. Trust me on this one.

Does anyone know which days the actual rounds will be?  I see the "activities" are starting on sunday and ending on saturday, but there are only 4 days of rounds.  I want to book a hotel, but do I really need to book sunday-friday???

According to the PDGA site rounds run from Tuesday to Saturday.

Man it's going to be a lot of golf that week. With Hambrick going on over in Columbus on Saturday and Sunday then driving back here only to head up to Milwaukee for 4-5 days...that will be quite tolling. It's going to be sweet though!

Quote from: tacimala on February 17, 2007, 09:07:20 AM
Man it's going to be a lot of golf that week. With Hambrick going on over in Columbus on Saturday and Sunday then driving back here only to head up to Milwaukee for 4-5 days...that will be quite tolling. It's going to be sweet though!

You should play the Hambrick Sat-Sun, drive to Milwaukee for Worlds Tues.-Sat., drive to Cedar Lake for IN States on Sun., then hike it up to Highbridge for Pro Worlds Wed.-Sun.   :)   (that would be ~20 rounds of tournament golf in 16 days!)

I think some people may be doing both Worlds, which will be a HUGE 2 weeks of golf.

The Indiana States is not on my calendar for some reason so I will have to add that. Anyone have any info on the Michiana tournaments? I have not seen any of that info out yet.

get a hotel room, you will be glad you did.  Or at the very least see if you can find out what time you tee off  at and that can make a huge difference.  No biggie if tee off is at 11 However I know that as the week goes on they let the people with lower scores tee off later.  Besides its am worlds and its only in Milwaukee once.  Get the hotel.

Quote from: UMphreak on February 17, 2007, 05:14:17 PM
get a hotel room, you will be glad you did.  Or at the very least see if you can find out what time you tee off  at and that can make a huge difference.  No biggie if tee off is at 11 However I know that as the week goes on they let the people with lower scores tee off later.  Besides its am worlds and its only in Milwaukee once.  Get the hotel.

I know in Des Moines there were 3 times times for tee offs every day. I'm not sure what the schedule will be for Milwaukee but I believe there will be 3 rounds per day on each course so if you get the early morning round you'll be waking up very early. Terry can give you more info on that.

Tee times at Des Moines were  7:30am, 11:30am & 3pm.  I'm also assuming all shot gun starts. With only 4 courses I can't see tee times working. Terry will have that info. Check this link. You can see a schedule of 2004 am worlds. It's on the left side.
http://www.pdga.com/worlds04/

I'm currently hunting for a person to caddy for the whole time, or maybe even just one round. I have my own place to stay in Milwaukee and don't want payment or anything, but you have to be pretty good and consistent (well, better than me which isn't very hard).

Hey if you want to caddy, I'm all for it. Hit me up and we can talk.

A question for next year's event.  MA1 need 1000 points to qualify.  Do those points all have to be won in the MA1 division?  Do MA2 or MA3 points count?

I believe that all points in any non-pro division count. When looking at your entry on pdga.com. Only one total number of points is listed.

Quote from: krupicka on February 21, 2007, 04:36:33 AM
I believe that all points in any non-pro division count. When looking at your entry on pdga.com. Only one total number of points is listed.

That is correct.  If an intermediate of rec player wants to win an invitation to Kalamazoo, no one has larger intermediate and rec fields than the Illinois Open Series. 

lol.  Fear not Bruce.  I already plan to play all 6 IOS this year (intermediate).  And probably play trophy only adv/pro at least a few times to make a full weekend of throwin.

Quote from: J.R. on February 21, 2007, 06:37:07 AM
lol.  Fear not Bruce.  I already plan to play all 6 IOS this year (intermediate).  And probably play trophy only adv/pro at least a few times to make a full weekend of throwin.

If you want to get more points play Advanced trophy only. Playing pro trophy only will give you pro points, not am points. You can't trade in your pro points at the end of the year for am points.  O0

AHA.  Thanks for the tip.  I didn't realize that trophy only players still get points. (though in Adv I wouldn't get many points anyway  :( )

But I may just do that.  Others also pointed out that I get a players pack if I play Adv.  :)

has anyone made reservations at either of the two "Main" hotels, I know one is the Four Points and I can't remember the second one.  Secondly, what is the reservation code when we call in to register for the rooms. Thirdly, does anyone know the rates for the Four Points or the other main hotel, i'm hoping to get into one of those two.  I'm already excited for my first Worlds week,  I'm all gittery with anticipation and it's not even march.

This URL should have answers to all your questions.

http://www.2007amworlds.com/accom.htm (http://www.2007amworlds.com/accom.htm)

Hope that helps and have fun.

thanks for the link, I looked on PDGA.com and saw that he had 5 or 6 more hotels as well but not a lot of information about booking. so I was wondering if anyone had heard anything else.

Anyone seen any invitation packs yet?  It's mid March, I have my hotel reservations, and I'm getting antsy as hell.

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I'm getting on the phone with David Gentry from the PDGA tomorrow.  We are ironing out just one or two last details and the invite packs should go out in the next few days. 

Having your hotel reservations are certainly a good idea.  Look for your packet via e-mail by Tue or Wed at latest.  Contact me if you have any other questions (or post them here).

Ter

PS - Lots of hotel info and other info is on the www.2007amworlds.com website.  Check out the accommodations page for lots of that stuff.

Quote from: discmonkey on March 17, 2007, 07:08:26 PM
Anyone seen any invitation packs yet?  It's mid March, I have my hotel reservations, and I'm getting antsy as hell.

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Am Worlds Fun Facts (& some questions).  Anyone (i.e. Terry) please feel free to correct any mistakes or falsehoods:

Schedule
  Sunday-All Day:  Field Events (all events $10 each) I think grouped by division
    EDGE SkillShot Challenge (I don't know what this is)
    Mini Golf (I don't know what this is - I'm an idiot)
    Putting Contest
    Long Drive Contest

Monday
  9:00 AM  Mixed & Jr. Doubles - which course(s)?
  7:00 PM  Players Meeting - location TBD

Tuesday - Friday
  Rounds 1 through 6, each participant plays one or two rounds per day

Tuesday Night - Fly Mart (Four Points Sheridan?)

Friday Night - Innova Party (Four Points Sheridan?)

Saturday
  Morning - Semifinals at Dineen, Brown Deer, Dretzka-New
  Afternoon - Finals at Dretzka-Original

Tee Times:  Tue - Fri are 8:00 AM, 11:30 AM, & 3:00 PM
  It's safe to assume these are shot-gun start (?)

Maximum capacity:  576
  Men & Grandmasters:   288
  Masters & Sr. Grandmasters:  144
  All Women:  72
  Juniors:  72
-Note:  2006 Worlds had 49 GM's, so the capacity for regular, ole Advanced should be around 240.

Men & Grandmasters are in four pools, Masters & Sr. Grandmasters are in two pools.  If you're in one of these divisions, you can request "any other players in your division with whom you wish to be pooled" for Tuesday & Wednesday.  After the first three rounds (Tue & Wed), players will be shuffled into new pools (by overall score?).
Interesting Statistic:  At the 2006 Worlds in Tulsa, you had to play rounds rated an average about 950 to make the top pool (top 72) in Advanced Men, same average rating to make the semifinals.

Courses
I thought that I heard that ALL courses would be pulled until May, and I'm not sure of the current status of each course.  The Greater Milwaukee Open B-Tier on May 26-27 (Memorial Day weekend) will feature all four courses, so they will probably all be in the ground from that point until the tournment (even the 9 temporary holes at Dretzka-New?).  However, Brown Deer will be closed for a PGA Tour event from July 11 - July 22.

Advanced Men will play Brown Deer & Dretzka-New twice each and Dineen & Dretzka-Original once each before the semifinals.

Invitees have exclusive access to registration until May 15th, after which any Amateur PDGA member can register (through the wait list?).  Final registration deadline is July 13th.

Lodging
http://www.2007amworlds.com/files/hotelComparisonsCompetitorCopy.pdf

Terry do you have snail mail entry forms for the GMO? downloadable?

Tyler:

The Skillshot thing is an overall skills competiton where you have to make mandatory throws, like backhand and forehand, and you are measured by accuracy. 

Mini golf is disc golf with marker discs and mini baskets. 

if anyone is looking for someone to help split the cost of their hotel room at Worlds PM me cause I can't afford a room all by myself for that long of a time. PM me to discuss it. Thanks

Just reg'd so watch out world

pre-reg is now at 528.

The pools for MM1 are E and F (F also has all of the Grandmasters).  Due to time constraints, I need to be in pool F.  does the pdga set up pools by alphatbetizing last names?  I'm at "W".  So, if that is the case I should make pool F.

Anyone know how they assign pools?

You should call the PDGA and request to be put in F pool for transportation reasons.  They'll do that.  However, that only gets you in F pool for the first two days.  Then there will be a sort by score into upper and lower pools.  F pool is likely to be the lower pool after the sort. 

Elliot Fu, if you are lurking, Diana is my partner and Kelsey is partnering with Dana.  So the sidebet is now entirely fair.  Kira is rated lower than Diana but she now beats her half the time.  You're rated lower than me but you beat me half the time. 

i would try to contact terry miller before it is too late doug.  he is probably working on those pool assignments as we speak.

me and kelsey are going to rock doubles!




(and for anyone that was wondering, i got a letter from mokena today letting me know i didnt get the job)

Good advice.  Thanks guys.

what are the bets on best placing club member?

all i know for sure is bryan schumann will not be the best placing club member.

My rating is lower than like 90% of the people playing.  My goal is a top 50% finish, but with how I've been putting lately, that may be a challenge.  Either way, I can't think of the last time I was think excited about doing something.  Regardless fo finish, it's gonna be a sweet week!!!

Any bets on the lowest placing club member? :-\

My goals are more modest-- avoid DFL.  I am the second lowest rated player in my division but am nearly 100 points above the next guy.  He better show up!  My real competition is the guy in the mirror.  I am going to look at it like a bike race.  I will just try to stay with the peleton.  If so, my rounds should rate pretty well.

How are we going to define "lowest placing"?  Kira could come in second in her division and also come in third from last.  Maybe she has a near lock on lowest placing! 

Quote from: Top Banana on July 16, 2007, 08:48:00 AM
How are we going to define "lowest placing"?  Kira could come in second in her division and also come in third from last.  Maybe she has a near lock on lowest placing! 

Rated rounds for an adult.  Kira places high in anybody's book regardless of the pool she is in!  Its best not to bet on kids.  She could win a trophy and still win "lowest placing" and that conundrum could be difficult for a youngster to handle no matter how precocious she is.  And, yes,I am ignoring the possibility that she will beat me outright which is certainly within the realm  of possibility this year and within the realm of probability next year. :D

This is my prediction:  Barrish does not finish lowest among club members.  Someone will DNF and finish lower because finishing always beats not finishing. 

My goal is to make the Saturday cut (72 I believe). There are many club members that are well on their way to achieving that. Hopefully we can represent well!

Thanks.  If that doesn't give me confidence, nothing will . :-\

I'm hoping to make the semi-finals too.  I've been playing so crappy recently, we'll see.  Diana said last time I was losing weight i played poorly.  Probably messes with your timing and mechanics to lose 15 pounds off the mid section.  45 to go!   :o

On a positive note, I was feeling pretty good this morning, not nearly as achy as I normally would after a tournament, so I think I can go the distance.

Well at Worlds we also won't be playing 54 holes a day (plus warmups) so it won't be as tolling on the body.

I could have sworn that there were a couple of posts where Jon was betting that Am Worlds would not fill and someone else was betting it would.  I cannot find them now. 

This just in:  Worlds did not fill.  From Dave Gentry as seen at PDGA.com:

Quote2007 PDGA Worlds Registration Update #12

The lists of players registered in the 2007 PDGA Pro and Am World Championships have been updated.

Pros: 262 players (66% capacity) including players from Finland, Japan, New Zealand and Sweden.

Ams & Juniors: 551 players (96% capacity) including players from Australia, Austria, France, Great Britain, Holland, Japan, and New Zealand.

Total Players registered: 813

Here are the links to the lists of registered players:

Pros: http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=6277

Ams & Jrs: http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=5831

NOTE - Registration for the 2007 PDGA Amateur World Championships is now closed. A final registration including pool assignments and any pending entires will be posted either Wednesday July 18th or Thursday July 19th.

This is the Brakel vs. Dana bet thread, I took him up on the $5 too, so that'll go to the Brakel fund if Dana actually pays up

http://discontinuum.org/index.php?option=com_smf&Itemid=26&topic=3107.0

it didnt fill exactly, however the major division (Advanced) did fill and I believe refunds had to be sent out.

only the smaller divisions like Juniors caused the event to not be at 100% capacity.  When we advised all the advanced players on this thread to register before it fills, we were correct in doing so.

the bet was for the entire event though. kudos to terry in shifting some spots to other divisions to try to accomidate more.

Pools are posted on the PDGA tour page.  The bulk of Illinois players in Advanced Men are in pool C:
  Tue-8AM Brown Deer
  Wed-11:30AM Dretzka Original
  Wed-3PM Dretzka New

Aaron & I are in pool B with 61 guys from Wisconsin!

When/where is everyone planning their practice rounds?  Let's try to get together & play for tags.

Yep I'm in Pool C also. Looks like Brown Deer is my first stop on Monday. Not sure what time I will be up there though, hopefully around noon. I'm up for some tags. 269 806-4727 is my cell, hit me up anytime next week anyone!

Does anyone know off hand which course are being used for doubles?

I'm in C also, wouldn't mind playin with some fellow Illini in the land of cheese.  I don't know if playing Brown Deer @ 8 am on the first day of pool play will help or hurt. Maybe give us all a chance to make up for the over par we will suffer there.  When are some people getting up there to practice? I'll be up @ my friends house @ noon to set up camp, I can play before that and probably in the afternoon. 630-263-6496

that's me, I forgot to log in

Quote from: tacimala on July 18, 2007, 02:02:22 PM
Does anyone know off hand which course are being used for doubles?

Dretzka, some field events on Sunday are there, too.

I will be up there as of Saturday, so I am game to play anytime as I will have ditched the wife for the week by Sunday.

Anyone have any luck printing up the new maps that Terry posted on a link  on the pdga message board?  I was unable to print them up.

Thanks.

Did someone post a list of the club members that are playing?  It should be a great time, looking forward to seeing everyone up there during the week.

Quote from: tacimala on July 18, 2007, 02:02:22 PM
Looks like Brown Deer is my first stop on Monday. Not sure what time I will be up there though, hopefully around noon.

You might consider checking in at HQ first and confirming that the baskets at Brown Deer will be in by noon. I read on the pdga board that if the ball golf tournament has weather or playoff complications they might not be in until later on Monday.  :P

If more people wanted to post phone numbers too, that would be cool. I know we'll all get together Wednesday night, but it's a long week with only a round or two per day so lots of idle time to be had!

I'm in C.  I'll be starting at Brown Deer first thing Tuesday am apparently.  I work Sat. and Sunday, but will be heading up on Monday.  Would love to get at least 2 rounds in at Brown Deer to get ready for Tues.  Tag rounds would be fun.

Pool C is the IL pool.  We all have a lot of downtime on Tuesday with an 8am round and then nothing the rest of the day.  Maybe I'll go out to Sussex if I can't think of anything better to do.

Quote from: Tom McManus on July 18, 2007, 05:56:26 PM
Did someone post a list of the club members that are playing?  It should be a great time, looking forward to seeing everyone up there during the week.

Advanced - Pool B  (Includes 3 FIB's & 61 cheeseheads)
Ben Schwinn
Sergio Correa
Tyler Williams
Aaron Scott
Steven Enk
Advanced - Pool C
Scott Klatt
Dan Michler
Jose Diaz
Nick Chernikovich
Adrian Gutierrez Jr
Ray Hill
Adam Smith
Doug Walker
Michael D. Clark
Rocky Pebbles
Tim Steward
Bryan Schumann
Chris Jordan
Kenny Glassman
Jamie Blough
Taylor Cimala
Justin Elmore
Women
Kelsey Brakel
Marie Schwinn
Masters (Pool E)
Bruce Brakel
Jim Bassett
Ron C. Miller
Grand Masters
Tom McManus
Damon Short
David Barish
Kurt Krasinski
Masters-Women
Diana Brakel
Juniors <19
Jason Rose
Juniors <16
Spencer Holms
Juniors <13
Nicholas Enk
Junior Girls <13
Kira Brakel

Quote from: tjdub42 on July 19, 2007, 07:44:05 AM

Quote from: Tom McManus on July 18, 2007, 05:56:26 PM
Did someone post a list of the club members that are playing?  It should be a great time, looking forward to seeing everyone up there during the week.

Advanced - Pool B  (Includes 3 FIB's & 61 cheeseheads)
Ben Schwinn
Sergio Correa
Tyler Williams
Aaron Scott
Steven Enk
Advanced - Pool C
Scott Klatt
Dan Michler
Jose Diaz
Nick Chernikovich
Adrian Gutierrez Jr
Ray Hill
Adam Smith
Doug Walker
Michael D. Clark
Rocky Pebbles
Tim Steward
Bryan Schumann
Chris Jordan
Kenny Glassman
Jamie Blough
Taylor Cimala
Justin Elmore
Women
Kelsey Brakel
Marie Schwinn
Masters (Pool E)
Bruce Brakel
Jim Bassett
Ron C. Miller
Grand Masters
Tom McManus
Damon Short
David Barish
Kurt Krasinski
Masters-Women
Diana Brakel
Juniors <19
Jason Rose
Juniors <16
Spencer Holms
Juniors <13
Nicholas Enk
Junior Girls <13
Kira Brakel

Thanks Tyler that is great.

Am I the only one who doesn't get why you'd put all the wisconsin players in one pool?  You go to worlds and you play half your rounds with everyone you see at a popular local tournament? 

all i know is i'm pumped as hell to get this bad boy started!

Quote from: Top Banana on July 19, 2007, 08:35:46 AM
Am I the only one who doesn't get why you'd put all the wisconsin players in one pool?  You go to worlds and you play half your rounds with everyone you see at a popular local tournament? 

I agree with you.  I was hoping to play with some new faces.  Not that there are any new faces in the over 50 group.

I had the same question myself but I try not to question people who have been busting their butts getting ready. If I remember hearing correctly, don't the groups get shuffled on Thursday?

Quote from: Tom McManus on July 19, 2007, 09:09:20 AM

Quote from: Top Banana on July 19, 2007, 08:35:46 AM
Am I the only one who doesn't get why you'd put all the wisconsin players in one pool?  You go to worlds and you play half your rounds with everyone you see at a popular local tournament? 

I agree with you.  I was hoping to play with some new faces.  Not that there are any new faces in the over 50 group.

It looks like the pools were simply created based on home state, only about 30 advanced players are not with the majority of participants from their state.  I guess those guys asked to be pooled with specific other players.

Terry posted on PDGA discussion board that "The PDGA spent hours upon hours to organize and orchestrate these pool assignments" & "tried to accommodate every request that came in on time."  So it may be the MAN in the PDGA front office that made the pools using home state to determine who was where.

And, yes, there's a shuffle based upon scores after three rounds.  I'll only recognize people on Thursday & Friday if they suck like I do.

Actually they don't shuffle based on scores; they sort based on scores.  Years ago someone called it the Great Shuffle and that stuck, but it is really the Great Sort. 

I believe they keep them in the same pool to make it easier for carpooling..  Good luck to all the players, I should be up there helping out just about every day after work..

Quote from: Top Banana on July 19, 2007, 01:08:23 PM
Actually they don't shuffle based on scores; they sort based on scores.  Years ago someone called it the Great Shuffle and that stuck, but it is really the Great Sort. 

wow, thats definitely the Fun Fact of the day..........

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7809737718076391062

Awesome exposure!

so what are in the player packs?

revolution mini bag
dga rouge
star crow
midnight ss avenger
sweet polo shirt

doubles bright and early

g'nite

Anyone know what's up with the posting of scores from doubles?

Mixed doubles results are up. Discontinuum well represented. Nice shooting all! http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=6915&year=2007&includeRatings=1#Advanced

Does anyone know if the schedule at the worlds website from 7/11/07 is still accurate? I'd like to go up there tomorrow and watch but want to make sure I'm showing up at the right place at the right time. Thanks!

Round 1 results are up.

http://www.pdga.org/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=5831&year=2007&includeRatings=1#Advanced

I'm sorry, but what is the difference between advanced, masters, and grandmasters?

Quote from: ChrisPUTTS on July 24, 2007, 09:54:43 PM
I'm sorry, but what is the difference between advanced, masters, and grandmasters?

I believe that anyone can play advanced. No age restrictions.  Masters are those born no later than December 31, 1967.  And grandmasters are those born no later than December 31, 1957.

I think that they're a few guys in their 50s playing masters and some guys in their forties are playing advanced.

It provides an opportunity for more people to come to events and be competitive within their groups.

I put up pictures from today at Dretzka New in the Gallery. Goto 2007 Events and then into the Worlds folder. If you want to watch the whole thing, I recommend watching it as a slide show (options in the upper left) and change the display time to 1 or 2 seconds. You'll get the best effect of the 5 FPS shots. http://discontinuum.org/index.php?option=com_gallery2&Itemid=45

This was Pool E, Men's Advanced Masters. Most of them are of Bruce and his group but I also have a few pictures of some other groups. I mostly went up there to walk with Bruce for a round. I was not on assignment.  ;)

What is the cut for the semis?  How many make it from each division?  Is it a percentage or a flat number?  Anyone know?

I think I have that info at home. I can post it tonight. I think it is 30 for the semi finals for Adv Master. Finals I think is the top 4 for each division.

My friend Greg Schwartz from the Frolfing Illini is shooting out of his mind!!!!  1051 (unofficially) rated 2nd round, sitting at 4th overall after 4 rounds.  WOW.

Quote from: Mike S on July 26, 2007, 10:10:54 AM
My friend Greg Schwartz from the Frolfing Illini is shooting out of his mind!!!!  1051 (unofficially) rated 2nd round, sitting at 4th overall after 4 rounds.  WOW.

He's shooting great! Just wanted to point out though that after the "Great Shuffle" individual round ratings don't mean anything until the PDGA fixes them before the next ratings update.

For the ratings update will they pool all of the ratings from each course together even though they were shot at different times and potentially under different conditions?  In other words, does a player from Pool C who played Brown Deer on Tuesday get ratings calculated together with a player from Pool A who played Brown Deer on Wed? 

GO JOSE!!!!!   :hello2:

Quote from: J.R. on July 26, 2007, 11:22:58 AM
For the ratings update will they pool all of the ratings from each course together even though they were shot at different times and potentially under different conditions?  In other words, does a player from Pool C who played Brown Deer on Tuesday get ratings calculated together with a player from Pool A who played Brown Deer on Wed? 

No, the ratings will only be calculated for people that played the course at the same time.

I guess the "1051" round was a -13 at new Dretzka.

Quote from: J.R. on July 26, 2007, 11:22:58 AM
For the ratings update will they pool all of the ratings from each course together even though they were shot at different times and potentially under different conditions?  In other words, does a player from Pool C who played Brown Deer on Tuesday get ratings calculated together with a player from Pool A who played Brown Deer on Wed? 

Yes they will as long as the conditions were nearly the same. That is what Chuck said on the PDGA message board.

Quote from: Mike S on July 26, 2007, 01:27:54 PM

Quote from: J.R. on July 26, 2007, 11:22:58 AM
For the ratings update will they pool all of the ratings from each course together even though they were shot at different times and potentially under different conditions?  In other words, does a player from Pool C who played Brown Deer on Tuesday get ratings calculated together with a player from Pool A who played Brown Deer on Wed? 

No, the ratings will only be calculated for people that played the course at the same time.

I guess the "1051" round was a -13 at new Dretzka.

Is that -13 to the posted, tournament par, or -13 to all par 3??  Big difference, still a tremendous score either way.  I'd have to shoot the round of my life to even shoot par there.

Quote from: discmonkey on July 26, 2007, 04:42:26 PM

Quote from: Mike S on July 26, 2007, 01:27:54 PM

Quote from: J.R. on July 26, 2007, 11:22:58 AM
For the ratings update will they pool all of the ratings from each course together even though they were shot at different times and potentially under different conditions?  In other words, does a player from Pool C who played Brown Deer on Tuesday get ratings calculated together with a player from Pool A who played Brown Deer on Wed? 

No, the ratings will only be calculated for people that played the course at the same time.

I guess the "1051" round was a -13 at new Dretzka.

Is that -13 to the posted, tournament par, or -13 to all par 3??  Big difference, still a tremendous score either way.  I'd have to shoot the round of my life to even shoot par there.

All par 3.  It was a 41.

Dana Vicich tied for 4th after 5 rounds!! Go Dana!!

Quote from: J.R. on July 26, 2007, 08:22:04 AM
What is the cut for the semis?  How many make it from each division?  Is it a percentage or a flat number?  Anyone know?

Semi Final - FW1 Top 12*, MG1 Top 20*, MJ1 Top 8*, MJ2 Top 8*
Semi Final - MA1 Top 68*
Semi Final - MM1 Top 32*, MS1 Top 8*

Finals** - Top 4 players for divisions with 6 or more, 2 otherwise

Divisions not listed in the above Semi Finals do not have Semi Finals. I think all divisions will have Finals.

Kelsey and Marie are tied for 2nd in Adv Women going into the last regular round! I wish them both great rounds...maybe there's still time to catch Katie Stauss!

Quote from: Jon Brakel on July 27, 2007, 08:31:47 AM

Quote from: J.R. on July 26, 2007, 08:22:04 AM
What is the cut for the semis?  How many make it from each division?  Is it a percentage or a flat number?  Anyone know?

Semi Final - FW1 Top 12*, MG1 Top 20*, MJ1 Top 8*, MJ2 Top 8*
Semi Final - MA1 Top 68*
Semi Final - MM1 Top 32*, MS1 Top 8*

Finals** - Top 4 players for divisions with 6 or more, 2 otherwise

Divisions not listed in the above Semi Finals do not have Semi Finals. I think all divisions will have Finals.

Thanks Jon

Quote from: Jon Brakel on July 27, 2007, 11:00:11 AM
Kelsey and Marie are tied for 2nd in Adv Women going into the last regular round! I wish them both great rounds...maybe there's still time to catch Katie Stauss!

After the last round in regulation Kelsey is in 2nd place in Adv Women and has a one throw lead over Marie and someone else who are tied for 3rd. She's like 13 throws out of 1st so unless there's a Gillooly moment I don't think Kelsey will be able to catch her.

All in Jeremy Bogan, DGM partner!!

Ok.  Is Ziggy Bierekoven the next Ken Climo?  I'd never heard of him.  But he's winning in 16 and under  by 17 strokes, beating everyone in 19 and under and his rounds ratings average higher than the leader in Adv M (dunno if the ratings are really comparable and they are unofficial).  Either way, this kid is scary good.  Half of his rounds were over 1000...unofficially. 

Give him hell, McManimal!  :D (photo from Am Worlds web site)
(http://www.2007amworlds.com/img/album/072307/large/DSC_0231.jpg)

random thoughts on Am Worlds, in no particular order...

I had a pretty bad year last year but things have been going comparatively better in non-IOS events (  :P )  this season. I'd set myself 5 goals for Worlds, in ascending order of expectations:

1. Shoot better than my ranking. (check. I was 33rd out of 55 going in, finished tied for 21st; only one guy finished above me who was lower-rated.)

2. Shoot better than my rating. (check, I think. The unofficial ratings have shifted a couple of times. I still think the GM scores 3rd rd @ Brown Deer are underestimated, my round wasn't good but 824 is a bit harsh I think. Conversely, my 4th rd @ Dineen shouldn't be anywhere near 917. Any version of the most recent calculations is still higher than what I was going in.)

3. Avoid major meltdowns. (check, to a point. Some goofy things happened towards the end of BD and it wasn't really the woods that caused them. Made some stupid choices at the end of the 2nd Dineen round, but in both cases there were no more holes to play to make matters worse. In general I held together pretty well; it was weird to see *other* people have meltdowns for a change... )

4. Shoot a 900 average. (nope; a couple shots here or there would have done it, as we've all
experienced, but 3 rounds were well over, and maybe the 1st rd will be too once it's official. [really shouldn't be though.] A small improvement under #3 would have guaranteed #4, which in turn might have ensured...)

5. Make the semifinals. (This was the 'least attainable' goal, but wound up being the one I came closest to [over-] achieving. Missed by one lousy shot... I can think of at least 10 shots that would've done it, but there were at least 5 shots I made during the week that I tend to screw up normally, and everyone's got similar stories, so I can't complain. But still.... on my next-to-last hole a long putt sat on the edge for what seemed like a full second before falling off... had I known that would've been enough who knows how I might have reacted, but since I figured I'd put myself out of it with a 5 a few holes earlier I was amazingly calm. [next time I get to Dretzka I'm going to practice #2, #3 and #17 in rotation for about 3 hours...])

Highlights:

Deucing my last 4 holes rd 2 @ Dineen. ("3 birdies in a row is a hat trick; or a turkey. What do you call 4 in a row?" .... "I'd call that a miracle.") Typically, I blew a 15-footer the first hole at BD that would've made #5.... I don't think I've ever strung that many birdies together in even a casual round, unless it was Vollrath or Lombard Commons.

Getting a 3 on Dretzka #6 to save my most solid round. It took a 20-min backup, a completely dumb-luck upshot, and a tentative putt under branches that went vertical and hung nearly silently in the chains. I don't recall ever getting anything better than a 5 on that basket position from either tee. (4d it the last round, which I was still ecstatic about...)

Not screwing up a critical upshot on Dretzka #3 (yeah, I know, it shouldn't have *been* an upshot) after a chipmunk scurried out of the trees across the fairway and cracked all of us up.

Playing a round with this good ole boy from NC who, even at our advanced age, threw thumbers on *every drive*. He couldn't putt to save his life, and some of them probably weren't legal, but it was fun to watch him.  He might have been part of the reason I was loose enough to shoot my best round. The homemade beef jerky was good too, even if it was 40% salt.

Lowlights:

Missing a putt from a contorted but makable lie while Juliana was watching. (I subsequently really needed those 4 straight birdies.)

Missing a putt from a contorted but makable lie at BD because none of us could figure out whether where my disc landed was in poison ivy or not.

Throwing an upshot at BD with a disc which, to a fault, had not faded left for the last month. It faded left.

Playing 2 rounds with a guy who's actually slower than I am. Worse, it took 5 holes of keeping score before he could get my name right. And he beat me by a stroke. I beat him the 2nd time though and wound up ahead of him for the week. Bwah-ha-haaaa.....

Finding the restroom at Dineen locked at 7 am. We should leave it at that, except to say that I'm very glad I carry extra supplies in my car. (and before you ask, I'd left the course, and was frequenting a local business establishment.) The round itself turned out OK though. As the great Louis Armstrong once said, "leave it all behind ya...."  ::)

The courses:
There was a fair amount of complaining about how 'easy' the courses were (although not from anyone in my division). I see the point, to a point, but it did tend to level the playing field, and I've seen the statistical arguments from the PDGA board where it allowed holes that could play from a 2 to a 4 at any given point. (One weird example: Dretzka New #2 is an 'apparently' easy 2, I almost aced it on my first throw in practice. In the 1st round, nobody in my group was inside the 30' circle, it wasn't windy, nobody 2'd, and one of the guys on my card wound up tying for 2nd, and only shot one better than me that round...) So it took more than just a big arm to score well, and anything could happen in the wind, although it was generally a lot less windy this past week than it usually is at Dretzka.

I wouldn't say Dineen is a "World's level" course, unless you think Fairfield or Lombard is a "World's level" course, if only because I actually shot reasonably well there.  (certainly better than I've ever shot at Fairfield or Lombard....  ;)). Brown Deer, definitely; Dretzka "Original", at almost any placement, of course, and I can see that the 'longs to longs' placement would have made it nearly impossible to have 3 rounds there in a day for 'ams' (and would have destroyed all but the top players; then again, it *is* the 'world championship', even if you're playing for plastic....)   Dretzka New is tricky, the type of course that you should kill in in a casual round but might give you fits in a tournament (obviously) or if it's windy(which I didn't have to deal with.) Since it's right there w/ the original course, definitely worth the trip. Brown Deer, absolutely (tough, maybe extremely tough from other placements, but fair, and not as 'brutal' as initial reports suggested.)

I've only played one other Worlds, and that was Des Moines, where the courses are amazing, I only saw/played half of them, half of the half I played beat me to death, and it was combined with Pro Worlds, so there's really not a fair comparison here.

All that said, I'd only add that, although the courses were plenty tough enough for me, the general response of 'if you want to play long tees, play pro' to is an attitude better left to White House press secretaries....

In general, though, I had a GREAT time. Thanks to Terry and everyone involved who worked on this.

There were other club members who had a much better week than I did. Tell yer stories....

I only had three goals

1. Make the semi-finals
2. Avoid having to take a year off to recover
3. Maintain my emotional composure throughout the tournament

I made the semi-finals.  I did not play great, ever, during the tournament, but never played worse than mediocre.

I think I'm mostly o.k.  My back is sore.  I'm going to take a couple of weeks away from throwing.  On the plus side, I lost a couple pounds.  I rode my new trike to work today and found out my legs are tired. 

I had a double o.b. 6 on a hole I birdied in practice.  To save 6 I had to make a 25 foot putt.  I then got three birdies on the next six holes to get back to par.  I think the whole tournament only had about four "Oh, Bruce!"s and two, "Crap!"s. 

Highlights

My jump putting saved me ten throws easy.  So I really sucked all week long but my jump putting was fantastic. 

I did not lose any discs.  I hate losing discs. 

I was not involved in any unpleasant confrontations.  I heard about a couple in my division but did not have any on my card. 

Dinner at Brown Deer.  We made chicken and rice on our Hillary propane stove.  It was a quiet, relaxing moment.

Kelsey and Kira collecting trophies.  Kira beat the winner in the 16 and Under division also. 

Lowlights

The whole thing was emotionally challenging because I was playing well below my potential. 

I took 579 shots on Saturday at Dretzka and I still didn't finish DFL! I started uploading them to the gallery last night and they're stil going!

I had two three goals and met two of them. 
1-avoid DFL- did it because a guy much lower rated was playing.
2- have fun- did this in spades.  This was so much fun it should be illegal.  I am going to Kalamzao. Book it.
3- play consistantly.  Did not do this.

Highlights-

56 at new Dretzka- I was very consistent.

I was even better that afternoon when Damon and I went up to Sheboygan to play Vollrath.  I was -6 after 9 holes.  Reality then set in and I finished +2.

par on #6 at old Dretzka in last round.

Playing  with great guys from all over the country and all over the world for that matter.

Spending an afternoon at Dretzka putting for about an hour and a half and watching McManus and a guy from Colorado practice putting and short upshots. I then played the course at 530pm missing the free pizza and leaving the park at dark (and missing the monsoon during the glow doubles).  It was great to just hang out at the park and throw, throw, throw, practice, practice, practice.  Rubber armed, sweaty, happy, glowing feeling.

The pro demo.  Whoa! I think I averaged about 20 ft. farther on my drives the rest of the week simply by listening and  watching. 

Lowlights-

last four rounds of  sub-mediocrity.  I felt good and  actually threw well.  I just  kept making mistakes.  I came home wanting to go out and  correct everything I had done wrong the last two days.   Having played my best rounds in the first two I kept dropping from the middle to the bottom by the end of the week.

Comments:

-  Should have played Dretzka from the longs.  That's what I play when I go up there for casual rounds and if I can play well from them, you don't need to go pro to use them.
-  Dineen is easier than Faifield or Lombard.  I had a horrible case of the shanks, shot one of my worst rounds from the prespective of hitting my lines, and still shot 1 under and won my card and a bag tag.
-  This was my first worlds, so I didn't have any problems with anything with no frame of reference.  I had one of the best, most fun times I've had in a long time.
-  Great courses breed great players.  Playing those great course with those great players, breeds more great players.  Illinois has a loooooooooooooooooooooong way to go.

Lowlights:

-I played some of the worst golf this week that I've ever played.  I don't know if it was nerves, not sleeping well in the hotel or what, but I sure sucked it up.
-Missing 8, yes 8, 10 foot putts in one round.  Not hitting chains and bouncing out, missing them completely. :huh:
-Playing in the rain.
-Playing in a group with someone who gave up.  My last round, one of the guys in the group couldn't get done fast enough and my thought was "just go home now".
-And my biggest disappointment, playing over 100 ratings points below my rating on at least 1/2 my rounds.  WTF!!!???

Highlights:

-Parking (within 20') my drive right over Barry's head in the woods.
-Made at least 10-12 35'+ jump putts
-Made a 120' putt, uphill, under trees, in front of a gallery to save a 3 on the first long hole (600+') at Brown Deer.
-Playing with people from all over (everyone from Jay from Huk Lab - Oregon - to Shin Asaya from Japan)
-Actually being at the Am Worlds less than 3 years after I started playing this game.

I had a great time and a ton of really wonderful memories.  Definitely going next year!

The ratings don't mean a thing yet because the pools are not separated.  The ratings calculator is assuming everyone played the New Brotzka Dineer Original course six or seven times.  Your rounds will rate a little lower when they are broken out except Brown Deer will rate much higher. 

I broke out the scores for the advanced women and ran them through the ratings calculator.  Kelsey averaged 918 for the tournament and had a personal best of 948 at Brown Deer.  Her lowest was an 898, so all of her rounds were higher than her current rating.  These ratings did not include the Master and Grand Master Womens' scores, so they might be a little higher or lower when they are official. 

Quote from: Top Banana on July 30, 2007, 10:53:07 AM
New Brotzka Dineer Original. 

Best course I have EVER PLAYED!

Quote from: Top Banana on July 30, 2007, 10:53:07 AM
The ratings don't mean a thing yet because the pools are not separated.  The ratings calculator is assuming everyone played the New Brotzka Dineer Original course six or seven times.  Your rounds will rate a little lower when they are broken out except Brown Deer will rate much higher. 

that's what I originally figured, but I remember seeing the scores online Wednesday night and the BD ratings for GM were different from other courses w/ the same score, and sadistically lower, and they haven't changed since, whereas others have.  it'll get sorted out eventually, hopefully, maybe.

I'm in agreement with everyone here that said that they had a blast. I definitely enjoyed the hell out of a week away from work filled with competitive disc golf.

My only goal of the tournament was to make the semi finals. Indirectly I guess my goal was to putt better. Both of these were met and I really only had one bad putting round out of 7.

Highlights:
- Shooting above my rating in 6 of 7 rounds.
- Making 7 jump putts outside of 50' and probably 18 more between 28 and 45.
- Taking 11 birdies in a row on Dretzka New holes 15 thru 7 to finish 9 down.
- Definitely the biggest highlight was all of the cool people I played with and met throughout the week. Val Jenkins caddied for Jay Harbour during the 3rd round on my card so that was cool (she even told me I was a sweet putter!)

Lowlights:
- Dineen
- The teepads were very slippery when wet. This definitely cost me several strokes over the week with my long run ups.
- Anything involving money pretty much.
- 4 days out of 5 with 8 AM rounds. Man am I tired!
- Being stuck on the random "ghost card" in a threesome in the semi-finals. We had to wait on over half the holes and this greatly affected my driving.

From an organizational standpoint this tournament was awesome! The scheduling was great, the flow was good and the courses were very well spruced up and in tip top shape. They made the best with what they had available. I never played with the same person twice and met a ton of cool people from all over the US. I even got to hang out with several top pro's which was fun too. I had not been playing well as of late and so I practiced hard the last two weekends and finally played well at Summit last Sunday. Come Monday I felt like I was feeling my putting game and then once the tourney started I definitely had. Of the 7 putts I hit outside of 50, 2 of them were at 90. I was really excited that I had found a groove in my putting and it was just in time. Finishing 29th at Am Worlds is a big accomplishment for me and I really feel like it will help me with my putting confidence in the future.

Quote from: Top Banana on July 30, 2007, 10:53:07 AM

I broke out the scores for the advanced women and ran them through the ratings calculator. 

I did this for the GMs (I'm having severe re-entry issues at my job today....  ;) ) but it'll still be off since there were c. 17 masters in our pool and it changed after the shuffle and I have no way of keeping track of whom was where when. But even an approximation was rather reassuring; looks like maybe the adjustment up for BD more than offsets the adjustments down for the other courses, and I may have averaged 900+ after all...  :mellow:

All my Worlds pix are up in the Discontinuum Gallery. The ones from Saturday are there in their original 8MP sizes so if you want to print, crop, zoom in, use as computer wallpaper, etc. its available without asking me. If you are going to publish some where please ask me first. To get the large size, click on the thumbnail pic then click on the bigger pic that opens. Finally right click on the big pic and select save picture. http://discontinuum.org/index.php?option=com_gallery2&Itemid=45&g2_itemId=165438

Thanks Jon for taking all the pictures.  You always manage to catch my bad habits.  Seeing pictures of myself doing bad things makes me change my ways much quicker.  I remember how I used to grab my shorts with my left hand during my follow through.  You posted a USWDGC picture of me doing that, and within a month, I broke that habit. I had been trying to not turn my head so much when I throw.  I think I did that successfully for the first 4 rounds, but then when I got tired, I reverted to my old ways.  As the pictures clearly show, I am looking away from the basket when I throw.  Bad Marie!  >:(

My goals were:

1. Play consistant. 
2.  Make the finals.
3.  Finish less than 10 over at Brown Deer.
4.  Don't get shot at Dineen.

I did all the above!  I had a great time and enjoyed playing many rounds with Kelsey. I'm glad she didn't give up when her back started acting up.  So if Kelsey averaged 928 at worlds, would I have averaged around 910?

My goals were to make the semis, limit my quantity of gak-ed 15-foot putts, and avoid the putting meltdown that plagued me at Geneseo & Rockford.

I averaged one missed short putt per round and had more 30-ft-plus saves than usual.  My meltdown round at Brown Deer was due to bad tee shots and was saved by some borderline acceptable putting.  My average rating should end up between 935-940 and that's a big improvement.  I think I missed the semis by seven throws.

My highlight was definitely the first round at Dretzka-New with a -6 & nine birdies, including a 90-footer on 8.  Also, Gary Camp & I played a practice round with Shawn Sinclair & Juliana Korver on Sunday.

I thought the courses were okay, although half the holes at Dineen were a joke.  I tend to agree with the "move up if you don't like the tees were playing" argument, but I don't understand why we wouldn't play the longs at Dretzka-Old.  The two courses at that park are very similar if you're playing the shorts only.

Huge props to Terry & everyone who helped him with the tourney.  Very organized and one-time.

Coming into Worlds I had 2 goals:
1) shoot every round under par
2) make the top 100

Unfortunately, I lost all hope of both my goals after the first round was done, shooting an even par 54 at Dretzka New. Combined with my 2 over 56 at Dretzka Original, I pretty much knew that my battle for top 100 was over. However, out of the abyss which was my disc golf game came a new goal; have a blast and have no regrets!!!

This was a goal I knew I could achieve and did. The weather was great, the people I played with all week, and the ones I met in between rounds were fantastic. I have never had a better time forgetting about the real world and living the dream for a week straight, although I think my back and shoulders are not all that happy.

All said and done I had a great time shooting below my rating for a week straight and cannot wait to do it again in Michigan!!!!!!

I calculated ratings for the women in the women's pool.  Here they are:

1   Katie Stauss   33277      51   971   48   998   52   954   67   878   51   971   48   984   54   918   28   -7
2   Kelsey Brakel   16007   880   53   949   55   919   56   909   58   961   54   938   54   913   55   906   25   4
3   Paige Pierce   29190   861   54   938   52   952   57   898   65   896   55   927   48   984   54   918   28   7
4   Marie Schwinn   21297   884   54   938   54   930   53   943   60   942   55   927   55   901   55   906   29   9
5   Melody King   29858   895   59   883   56   907   58   887   57   970   52   960   52   937   54   918      9
5   Carla Gomez   25732   865   59   883   54   930   53   943   59   952   56   916   52   937   55   906      9
7   Liz Lopez   31162   864   56   916   55   919   53   943   62   924   54   938   56   889   55   906      12
8   Sandra Frazer   24354   877   58   894   55   919   60   864   66   887   55   927   55   901   52   941      22
9   Melissa Martin   30499   834   57   905   55   919   55   920   65   896   60   872   56   889   55   906      24
9   Jenny Garland   27324   902   61   860   53   941   52   954   66   887   53   949   57   877   61   836      24
11   Shelly Workman   23340   863   59   883   64   817   57   898   61   933   56   916   53   925   54   918      25
12   Dawn Pengelly   25745   855   54   938   61   851   59   875   70   850   58   894   53   925   59   859      35
13   Jenny Haug   28692   803   58   894   58   885   59   875   66   887   61   861   55   901            33
14   Kelly Welch   29595   812   62   849   53   941   59   875   69   859   62   850   55   901            36
15   Melissa Lancaster   29335   852   59   883   59   873   61   853   67   878   59   883   56   889            37
16   Terri Dickey   24893   856   60   871   57   896   59   875   67   878   65   817   54   913            38
17   Carla Olynyk   25163   834   60   871   61   851   59   875   67   878   66   806   58   865            47
18   Amanda Rabatin   29605   805   61   860   58   885   61   853   74   813   62   850   59   854            51
19   Holly Smart   29111   790   61   860   61   851   63   830   76   794   61   861   60   842            58
20   Amanda Hinkens   30589   761   63   838   62   839   63   830   74   813   67   795   58   865            63
21   Katrina Sue Kozar   28303   802   61   860   62   839   62   842   77   785   68   784   62   818            68
22   Jennifer Ashley   30928   743   66   805   62   839   63   830   77   785   64   828   64   794            72
23   Shelly Dunham   25537   752   70   761   65   806   65   808   78   776   67   795   63   806            84
24   Nikki Brodlo   28365   766   68   783   68   772   65   808   78   776   68   784   65   782            88
25   Anna Cole   25039   768   72   739   62   839   63   830   79   767   68   784   69   735            89
26   Trina Knoll   28465   728   73   728   67   783   69   763   75   804   65   817   67   759            92
27   Tammy Walsh   17586   798   70   761   67   783   71   740   81   748   71   751   70   723            106
28   Patricia Davis   31863   675   70   761   70   749   70   752   85   711   70   762   66   770            107
29   Tina Ludwikowski   32950   743   72   739   71   738   71   740   82   739   72   740   72   699            116
30   Sarah Hansen   33463      66   805   60   862   64   819   79   767   126   147   66   770            137
1   Karen Jaskolka   25797   882   56   916   57   896   55   920   71   841   61   861   54   913         32   35
2   Babette Martin   20239   824   62   849   62   839   63   830   70   850   56   916   60   842         29   51
3   Sarah McCourt   22354   786   60   871   61   851   60   864   76   794   60   872   63   806         30   59
4   Lisa Harbour   26232   839   61   860   62   839   61   853   69   859   65   817   62   818         34   63
5   Lesli Younger   21662   813   64   827   62   839   64   819   73   822   60   872   60   842            59
6   Sheila Calhoun   16515   800   62   849   64   817   64   819   70   850   63   839   62   818            61
7   Diana Brakel   16006   816   63   838   63   828   61   853   77   785   65   817   62   818            67
8   Marie Fry   18020   820   67   794   68   772   63   830   77   785   65   817   59   854            75
9   G. Rose Wasserstrom   11833   805   65   816   62   839   66   797   80   757   64   828   64   794            77
10   Jaymie Crafts   21005   781   65   816   70   749   68   774   75   804   71   751   63   806            88
11   Nadine Malm   26799   774   72   739   66   794   68   774   75   804   71   751   66   770            94
12   Sissy Hunter   31325   676   78   673   79   647   77   673   93   637   83   619   80   604            166
13   Chrissy Holton   28756   482   85   596   89   534   82   617   94   628   86   586   85   545            197
1   Patricia Stallman   25543   733   63   838   64   817   65   808   78   776   65   817   64   794         33   81
2   Cindy Graham   29169   809   64   827   65   806   63   830   78   776   65   817   68   747         33   85
3   Donna Dennis   23869   723   79   662   64   817   69   763   87   693   73   729   67   759            115
4   Carol Todaro   28758   503   86   585   84   591   88   549   108   498   84   608   81   592            207

They are in the excel spread sheet attached to this post also.  I don't know whether the template dropped out the non-gators rated below 800, but they mostly shot above and below their ratings like everyone else.  So these are unofficial but probably closer than what is on-line. 

So there's a good chance Katie's first rating puts here well into the 900's. Thanks for reminding she wooped me on the courses we played the same  :)

I think I only shot one round above my rating and will be moving down quickly in the ratings. Good thing ratings don't bother me.

On any given day, any given person can tear it up!