Champ, Dx, Pro???

[Stewie]

I know the difference between the 3. But does the plastic used to make the discs really matter? Other then the life of the disc from wear and tear, but does it help it fly better in any way or what? Whats the deal?

Sorry im a noob at the frisbee golf game. But I am getting into it big time.

[DougEDawg]

I've discovered that as the grade of plastic increases, so does the stability of a disc.  In other words, if I have an Innova Eagle that has been molded out of DX plastic and I have a Championship Eagle which is made from the same mold but with higher quality plastic, the CE Eagle will fade (Right to left throwing right handed backhand) quicker and harder than the Eagle made from DX plastic.

[Chainmeister]

This is why I actually chose the cheaper, dx, plastic over the champion plastic for a disc.  I have a dx beast that I love.  It flys very straight.  I felt that if it was a champion beast it would be too stable and thus too similar to my champion Orc and Viking.  By the way, Stewie, I love the Napolean Dynamite Avatar!

[Brian]

DX plastic will give you more distance and some will argue a better grip.  However, the Champ. plastic can take a beating.  

As far as the Beast goes I throw the DXs because they are predictable.  The Champ. Beast is to unpredictable for my taste.  

[CEValkyrie]

DX plastic will give you more distance.

I'd have to disagree with you on this one. I can't get any dx disc to even come close to the distance i get with the Champion Orc.

[Dan Michler]

The difference between these three Innova plastics is durability, feel, and price.  None of them necessarily fly farther than the other.  I think most people will agree that the DX version of any disc is typically less stable than its Champion version.  However, there are plenty of very stable DX discs, so its not like all DX plastic is understable.

[SERG]

DX all the way!!!! Except the ORC or the MONSTER because they haven't been produced in DX...although a little bird told me that there is expectation to see a DX Orc soon.

[shawn]

It comes down to feel... whatever feels good ripping out of your hands is what you should use.  Distance really is not my main concern when it comes to playing this game..  Accuracy and predictablility is what I look for in a disc, and when you find what works for you.... stick with it.  

I find candy plastic the best for spike hysers and skip shots.  But for tight shots, turnovers or anyday that it is wet out... DX.  

[SERG]

I'm putting this question here because I don't want to start something new:

What is difference (if any) between PRO and PRO LINE? For example, I see there is a PRO Classic Roc, the new PRO Beast, etc. but the Orc says PRO LINE, and I think the Cobra also says it.

According to the Pro Shop at zonedriven.com here is the rundown:
PRO: Aviar, Beast, Birdie, Classic Roc, Leopard, Shark, Teebird, Teebird-L
PRO LINE: Cobra, Orc, Rhyno

I have an older Pro Line Spider and Beast but it's clear plastic.

[Dan Michler]

The Pro Line plastic is different from the Pro discs.  I think the pro discs pretty much have all the characterstics of champion plastic.  They just started making that Pro Line plastic last year I think and it is supposed to feel like DX plastic, but be durable like Champion plastic.  I've found that the Pro line plastic feels very grippy and is not really durable at all.  It warps in a hurry.  I think its junk.

[shawn]

It's accually the same plastic as the KC 9x and early 10x that everyone was craving for...  I like the plastic for it's grip, but it does beat in very quick... so if you get it, get it in a firebird or eagle.. something that is already stable so that when it beats in you have a straight fading disc.

It will outlast dx plastic by about a week or so in durability...   And IMO, they are not as good as the early 10x..  Takes me about a month and a half to break in a early 10x eagle to where it does what I want..

[damonshort]

I bought 3 Pro Line Teebirds when they first came out, and was extremely disappointed. For me they don't fly like 9x or 10x at all.    I didn't care for the Super Roc either, for that matter.

[Brian]

A new Pro Teebird that threw turned over like I was throwing something that was beat to death.  There was minimal resistance to turn over and it didn't fly as far as a champion Teebird or the older 10x Teebirds.

[damonshort]

A new Pro Teebird that threw turned over like I was throwing something that was beat to death.  There was minimal resistance to turn over and it didn't fly as far as a champion Teebird or the older 10x Teebirds.

exactly. Guess I can't sell you mine.    

[shawn]

A new Pro Teebird that threw turned over like I was throwing something that was beat to death.  There was minimal resistance to turn over and it didn't fly as far as a champion Teebird or the older 10x Teebirds.

exactly. Guess I can't sell you mine.  

Nothing will match the old stuff...  But someday they will be able to make... or get close to the good stuff..   ie: san marino rocs, 9x eagles, 8x rocs...

[SERG]

I'm posting here because I don't want to start a new thread:

DX Orcs (and Champion Gators) were released today. The catch: Zonedriven's site is down with all the Roc stuff so until it's back up you'll have to try and find them somewhere else.

I'm going to try and get the Parkside guy to order some. Usually only $8 a piece and you don't have to pay shipping  

Buy 3, get the 4th free!

[dark12]

I'm posting here because I don't want to start a new thread:

DX Orcs (and Champion Gators) were released today. The catch: Zonedriven's site is down with all the Roc stuff so until it's back up you'll have to try and find them somewhere else.

I'm going to try and get the Parkside guy to order some. Usually only $8 a piece and you don't have to pay shipping  

Buy 3, get the 4th free!

awesome thanks

[SERG]

Our Pro Shop at Parkside just got a new Innova order in. I was rummaging through the discs and have found that the DX plastic in this shipment seems to have more of a "pro plastic" feel to it. Has anyone else found some DX that doesn't match last year's DX? For the guys who are here in Kenosha I'm going to bring some out and show you...just a double check to make sure I'm not out of my head.

[Bruce Brakel]

Plastic types change constantly, and this is not an innova vs anybody else thing.  The frisbee golf industry is a small player in the injection plastic molding industry and the disc manufacturers use what is available for a good price right now.  The automotive and appliance manufacturers drive the market, and toy manufacturers ride in the back seat. 

Pro or Pro Line refers to a pricing policy and not a type of plastic.  They have the soft JK putter type of pro plastic, the hard KC Roc type of pro plastic that is more like DX, the shiny dyeable Pro Starfire type of plastic, the rubbery soft Rhyno type of pro plastic, and one more I'm forgetting, because i know there's five.  And Discraft does the same thing with X.  Also, the candy plastic when it first came out was called Pro Line, so it can be confusing. 

The Champion and Z plastic is the most durable and i think it is worth the extra money spent for discs you throw at full power, sometimes into nearby trees.  But that is my preference.  A lot of very good players throw mostly DX plastic.  I'm not good enough to throw mostly DX plastic.  I need something I can blast into a tree 20 feet off the end of the tee pad. 

[discmonkey]

Just went out today and threw my brand new 172g dx wraith for about an hour in a field.  Holy schikes is this thing friggin fast.  If you thought the CFR, Star, or Pro were fast (and they are), this thing was nuts.  The rim is noticeably sharper than the pro and the star.  Very controllable as well.  For someone with not the biggest arm, this was a fun disc to let fly.  What a great disc to show the difference that the plastic makes.