2005 ILLINOIS OPEN SERIES

[Jon Brakel]

Jon,

Any idea when the the rounds will be rated for Saturday's IOS7 on the PDGA website?

David Gentry e-mailed me yesterday and said that he was going to try to work on it in the next few days he told me to e-mail him to remind him if he hadn't fixed by the end of next week.

[CEValkyrie]

I just finished the upper division points. I'll be working on the lower divisions tonight & tomorrow then posting the overall points. All I have left are Rec & Int divisions.


Congrats to the Champions!

Open
Kurt Raffensperger

Masters
Spike Walker (Club Member)

Open Women
Barrett White

GrandMasters
Ron James

Advanced
Dan Michler (Club Member)

Advanced Masters
Adrian Gutierrez Sr. (Club Member)

Advanced GrandMasters
Johnse Holt

Advanced Women
Kelsey Brakel

Intermediate
Kevin Lenth (Club Member)

Intermediate Women
Kira Brakel

Recreational
Jason Poole

Recreational Women
Jennifer Fox

Jr<19  
Steven Guther
Chris Traven
*Tied/Awaiting Playoff*

Jr<16
Michael Apostolou

Jr<13
Billy Dickenson

[CEValkyrie]

Attached are the final points for the 2005 IOS Series.

[Bruce Brakel]

So we had about 475 players play at least one leg of the Illinois Open Series?  

[Jon Brakel]

So we had about 475 players play at least one leg of the Illinois Open Series?

When I pasted that into a spreadsheet and did a filter for unique records (filtering out the duplicate people that played more than one division), I came up with 505 players.

[Bruce Brakel]

Then think about this:  if each of those 505 players were to play just three tournaments, that would be 1515 players at 7 tournaments, or 216 players per tournament.  If every one of those 505 players were to play just one more tournament, we'd average 72 more players per tournament than this year.  

[Jon Brakel]

I think we're gunna need a bigger boat!    

[CEValkyrie]

I have a table i'll post when I get home. I'm going to use this to track progress year to year.

[Bruce Brakel]

Well, this development should help keep attendance down:  the non-member fee in 2006 will be $8 per tournament instead of the current $5 per tournament.  

[CEValkyrie]

Well, this development should help keep attendance down:  the non-member fee in 2006 will be $8 per tournament instead of the current $5 per tournament.

Is that set in stone or a rumor?

[Bruce Brakel]

Stone.  But the PDGA Board has been known to "rechisel" unpopular decisions that come from the blue like this with no apparent thought or rationale.  I started a thread under Rules and Standards at PDGA.com.  Maybe it will get some traction.  

[Bruce Brakel]

I'm not certain it is a bad thing.  I don't know what to think.  It will create room on the lower day.  It should decrease the amount of work Jon has to do.  It will get some non-members to join.  It will cause some non-members just to play unsanctioned tournaments.  We will still be running the best events there are for Chicagoland amateurs.  

[Clonefan94]

It also might get those who are already members to play under their PDGA # rather than make up a fake name so it allows them to play in the rec division rather than int. At least that's what one kid I played with first round said he does. During the round I thought it was odd that he said he wasn't a PDGA member, but, was using a PDGA numbered mini.  

[CEValkyrie]

Attached is a chart I put together to track attendance.

In 2004 the IOS averaged 85 players per event.
In 2004 that avearage increased to 128.29

898 players played in 7 events this year. I think it's possible to push that over 1,000 player next year. The trophy only option was not popular at IOS #6. Subtracting that event the average for 2005 increases to 136.83.

[Jon Brakel]

Well, this development should help keep attendance down:  the non-member fee in 2006 will be $8 per tournament instead of the current $5 per tournament.

Today, Theo announced that the PDGA BOD has revoted and will NOT be increasing non-member fees for 2006.

[Jon Brakel]

Jon,

Any idea when the the rounds will be rated for Saturday's IOS7 on the PDGA website?

David Gentry e-mailed me yesterday and said that he was going to try to work on it in the next few days he told me to e-mail him to remind him if he hadn't fixed by the end of next week.

David e-mailed me again over the weekend and said that he has not had any time to fix this so it will probably have to wait until the December update.

[maa4208]

Well, this development should help keep attendance down:  the non-member fee in 2006 will be $8 per tournament instead of the current $5 per tournament.

Today, Theo announced that the PDGA BOD has revoted and will NOT be increasing non-member fees for 2006.

Thats good; Gary Lewis was talking to my dad and I told my dad about it and he told Gary. Maybe this will help to make Gary run sanctioned tournaments for Ams and Juniors. He was worried that the increased fee will turn away even more than the normal fee. Well, my dad told Gary about IOS# 7 and he was suprised.

[maa4208]

My dad checked at his work and IOS#7 results are official.

[Bruce Brakel]

Well, this development should help keep attendance down:  the non-member fee in 2006 will be $8 per tournament instead of the current $5 per tournament.

Today, Theo announced that the PDGA BOD has revoted and will NOT be increasing non-member fees for 2006.

Thats good; Gary Lewis was talking to my dad and I told my dad about it and he told Gary. Maybe this will help to make Gary run sanctioned tournaments for Ams and Juniors. He was worried that the increased fee will turn away even more than the normal fee. Well, my dad told Gary about IOS# 7 and he was suprised.

We were surprised too.  We do our best % payouts for intermediate and recreational players, but since a lot of the payout is in the player pack and the CTPs we don't expect anyone to notice.  Also, in the past it has been that intermediates and recs only play their home course tournaments and are ill-informed about other tournaments.  IOS 7 seemed to suggest that all that is changing.  Maybe it is the internet.  

Anyway, we think it is best for disc golf to build a good base of lower skill level players, and we do our part by offering good events for them to play.  If more TDs do that, it can only help grow the sport.  

[pickax]

So were there not enough gators for IOS#7 (Sat)? I finally became a PDGA member at that tournament and I didn't get a rating for it. I also don't see round ratings either.