2007 AM WORLDS--MILWAUKEE, WI

[CEValkyrie]

Never too early to get this thread started.

[Bruce Brakel]

I'm in.  Kelsey's in.   

[Mike S]

Definitely want to.  Too far off to make any promises, though.

[Todd. Fanning]

I plan on playing

[SIUFrolf]

I definitely hope on being there.  It's my top goal of the year to at least get invited to it.  If that happens I'll be there in a heartbeat.

[amdiscgolfer]

For you Illinois Boys who do not want to drive back and forth I have some space in my backyard for camping out, do not have a large amount of space but I am 5 minutes from Dretzka.

[Dan Michler]

do you have a wife?

[amdiscgolfer]

R U Telling me I should check with her first before giving up my yard?

Or is it because I am giving my yard and not my rec room in the basement

[Dan Michler]

actually i was planning to hit on her.

[amdiscgolfer]

Well, Thats what I thought originally!

[airspuds]

im in if invited

[Chainmeister]

Well, its sure great to be old.  It takes a whole lot less points to get in as a master (I will be only one year away from grandmaster, damn ) than as a normal person.  This means that you can still get in if you are old even if you still suck.  My goal this year is to nickel-dime enough points to get an invite.  If so, I have friends in the area and will stay there.  Don't think I will hit on the misses though.  Flattery yes, hit, no.  I'll leave that to the young guys who have more points and longer drives.

[amdiscgolfer]

I figured Dan was going there - but wasnt going to let him hide his true motive for the question.

It could be a little easier for us Younger guys who SUCK to get invited - played 7 events and only got 117pts.

[badger1190]

well it should be easy enough for us mediocre juniors, i tink you only need 75 points or something, im loking forward to it

[Bruce Brakel]

It could be a little easier for us Younger guys who SUCK to get invited - played 7 events and only got 117pts.

I'm not saying this to be hurtful, but to be helpful.  And I'm not saying this to Jeff but to anyone in that situation:

If you want to get an invitation to Worlds on points, you can do so even if you are not yet competitive in Advanced.  The trick is to play tournaments that have good attendance in a division where you are competitive.  Don't play tournaments that don't offer a division where you are competitive. 

Jason Poole got 950 points last year.  He mostly played rec and intermediate except for the occasional ass-kicking in advanced.  He was the kickee.  And, by playing in a division where he had to play his best to win, instead of playing in a division where he had no hope after the first five holes were done, Jason moved his rating up 120 points from May to December last year. 

Most players will pay less money, win more stuff, have more fun, get more points and improve faster if they are playing in a division where they are competing for a trophy, rather than just donating and goofing around all day. 

It also helps to practice a little more and play fewer casual rounds.  You already know how to walk, so you need to focus your practice time more on throwing, less on walking.

[Dan Michler]

I agree with Bruce here.  However, maybe some people dont' have a choice what division to play in based on what days they are free.

The cutoff for Advanced is 915.  in my mind it would make more sense if the average advanced player was 940 rated instead of about 920 rated.  a top advanced player would be around 960-970 (instead they all donate to the pros).

Look at the prereg list for Bowling Green

http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=5466

There are a ton of guys prereg'd for advanced that are below 915.  I'm not sure why to be honest.  We're all just sucky amateurs, so you might as well play in the proper amateur division and have fun.

I suppose its stupid for me to say this, as its nice to be still cashing in advanced even when I play bad thanks to the large quantity of Int/Rec players in my division.  But i'd rather that everybody have fun.

[Bruce Brakel]

A lot of the players who are 915 minus-minus and playing advanced at Bowling Green are from disc golfing communities that have not gotten with the new system.  Where they are from the division you play reflects on your virility rather than your skill.  Where they are from the 860 rated player playing advanced has the right to mock the 860 rated player in rec or intermediate, even though he is no better.  He has pecking order because he is man enough to play advanced.  If this seems foreign to you, Tennessee is still pretty foreign to Chicago or Milwaukee.  Also, there are a lot of people who believe, in a very religious way, that if they get their ass kicked over and over, that is the quick way to getting good.  Kind of like beating yourself with whips during Ramadan or something.  Nothing I learned in four years of behavioral psychology classes would lend any credence to that theory, but what do I know?  All I know about behavioral psychology is reflected in my parenting skills.  You tell me. 

[amdiscgolfer]

I played advanced last year as most of the people I play with stepped up to advanced.  I have decided to step down and play not only my rating but my skill level as well.  This is not an excuse --> I have not exactly had the most amount of Free time since we just bought a house, have a 2 1/2 year old and one on the way  .  And now with the latter of that sentence can rest assured that I wont have any new found freedom.  Which puts the KIBosh on even thinking about going to Bowling Green.  I can still get in on the Waiting list, Hopefully! If not, I'll still take the week off and help Terry and the Boys work the event.

[Bruce Brakel]

I'm in.  Kelsey's in.   

Who knows, could be Kelsey's last tournament in the women's amateur divisions.  If you did not see me bragging about my kid on the other thread, she threw a 900 round last weekend. 

[discmonkey]

So as a person who just started playing last year, and who is planning on playing tournaments for the first time this year, will playing in all 7 IOS and 3 others for a total of 10 tournies this year be enough to get an invite???  I plan on playing rec until my rating dictates otherwise.  I have no ego to feed by doing anything else.