Dec 9th - Brown Deer Wintertime Open

[damonshort]

I'm sure you don't use that much, but I keep visualizing this image of an explosion of dust on every drive, like a musket exploding backwards or something 

[Mukey]

I'm sure you don't use that much, but I keep visualizing this image of an explosion of dust on every drive, like a musket exploding backwards or something 

Insert "1812 Overture"  here

[discglfr]

Just so everyone knows...

We are going to have some special rules regarding the snow and lost discs for this event. In fact, it was ok'd yesterday by David Gentry of the PDGA. However, rather then me posting something that wasn't 100% accurate I am waiting on an 'official statement' from Dave Gentry.

Please hang tight. I looked into this a few days ago when all of the snow came and with the ratings and TD reports, it's just taking the PDGA a few extra days to reply. See you guys on Saturday!

[Bruce Brakel]

Hey, thanks for getting your scores up right away and your TD report in right away after the last tournament.  I'm kind of o.k. with this one getting in and Illinois States not!   

[discglfr]

No problemo about the reports.  I knew that would be at hot item with us being so close to a cutoff date.  Plus, I like to get that stuff online and submitted so that I'm done with it and its out of site and out of mind.

On another day and time we'll have to talk about the girls not coming to Am Worlds here in Milwaukee.  I really think that they should!  I guess I should have made a contract with Kira about her appearances at my events

Ter

Hey, thanks for getting your scores up right away and your TD report in right away after the last tournament.  I'm kind of o.k. with this one getting in and Illinois States not!   

[DougEDawg]

Does anyone know if this course is well marked and easy to follow?  I'm thinking about going up there before the tournament.  Serg, how much snow is up there?

[discglfr]

You could always print out the map found here:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/evilmousse/307303034/in/set-72157594393664328/

Gregg did a pretty good job of laying things out on there.  You could also print out a few pages of the pictures for references too.  The tee signs are 4x4 posts right now and they aren't ideal just yet.  There is a good foot of snow up here.

Ter

Does anyone know if this course is well marked and easy to follow?  I'm thinking about going up there before the tournament.  Serg, how much snow is up there?

[DougEDawg]

I'm unable to connect to the photo link.  It keeps saying "unable to display".

[SERG]

Does anyone know if this course is well marked and easy to follow?  I'm thinking about going up there before the tournament.  Serg, how much snow is up there?

The hole is hidden in the woods a little. There are brown tee sign posts at each tee pad with distances written on them. There are no signs on them but they are easy to spot. When you see these posts you know there is a tee pad.The course flows pretty well and you should be able to figure out the paths pretty easy. This will make more sense when you get there:

• After Hole 2 go across the street to Hole 3.
• After Hole 3 walk out of the woods to your right for Hole 4 (Hole 5's tee pad will be to your left after Hole 3. Make sure you go to the right for Hole 4).
• On Hole 13, the basket is to the right at about a 90 degree angle. You will see Hole 16's basket straight ahead. DON'T THROW TO THIS BASKET.

I recommend taking a look up the fairway at the baskets before throwing some of the holes. Sometimes people say, Oh there is the basket! and never really go look. TAKE A LOOK!

I don't know what the snow is like in Milwaukee anymore but not much has melted here. The roads are cleared off but there are still a number of inches on the course. Terry might be able to add to this.

[DougEDawg]

thanks surge.  you playing this saturday?

[SERG]

thanks surge.  you playing this saturday?

Not sure yet. I'm trying to finish my holiday shopping today and tomorrow. If I have money left I'd like to play.

Dollar Store gifts for everyone so Serg can play one more tournament! Or, I put my money into the tournament and hope to win prizes...discs for everyone!

[Tom McManus]

Just so everyone knows...

We are going to have some special rules regarding the snow and lost discs for this event. In fact, it was ok'd yesterday by David Gentry of the PDGA. However, rather then me posting something that wasn't 100% accurate I am waiting on an 'official statement' from Dave Gentry.

Please hang tight. I looked into this a few days ago when all of the snow came and with the ratings and TD reports, it's just taking the PDGA a few extra days to reply. See you guys on Saturday!

Any word yet on the special rules?  Also, what is the status on the crushed gravel tees?  Are they icy or has the snow been removed? Salt will knock down the ice on the tees even if they are crushed gravel. As cold as it has been, if they are getting play, I would think that they are very icy right now.

[discglfr]

You guys asked for it and I'm providing it.  Below is the official take on the PDGA Special Rules for this event.  I cannot stress enough that this is a 'special case' that we were granted from Mr. Gentry.  This is for this event ONLY and any other special requests always have to go through him.  I am likely going to host a C-Tier at Dineen on December 30th and those rules may or may not apply at that time.  By default they will NOT apply as they are a case by case thing.  I am very pleased with Mr Gentry's decision and his willingness to work with us on this special case. 

Here you go:

Disclaimer: This waiver is only good for the Brown Deer Wintertime Open on December 9th, 2006 in Milwaukee, WI. Any event desiring a similar waiver may request one by contacting the PDGA Tour Manger.

Waiver specifics: Due to significant snow accumulation the following conditions that deviate from the PDGA Official Rules of Disc Golf have been approved.

1)       Players are permitted to affix ribbons to their discs to aid the group in the location of a throw. These ribbons are to be used solely for location purposes and any other purpose is prohibited.

2)       The text of the Lost Disc rule in section 803.11B will be replaced by the following:

"A player whose disc is declared lost, shall receive one penalty throw. The approximate lie for the player's next shot shall be marked in-bounds nearest the spot where the disc was last seen, as agreed to by a majority of the group or an official."


David Gentry
PDGA Tour Manager

[Mukey]

Regarding the ribbon & the 2-mter rule (if in effect), are you still penalized if the ribbon is what is keeping the disc above 2 meters?

[discglfr]

Ha,

Good question.  I would have to ask about that one!  However...for sake of argument and simplicity, we'll play no two meter rule at this event!

Thanks,

[DougEDawg]

Where do you get these ribbons, and how do you attach them to the discs?

[Tom McManus]

Where do you get these ribbons, and how do you attach them to the discs?

You can go to Michaels or Walmart or any drug/deparment store and get some very narrow ribbon.  Get some good clear packing tape.  I think most people tape them to the bottom of the disc right in the center.  I think the lengths are typically 16" to 18".  I think some may tape to the top of the disc.  I don't think that it changes the flight characteristics at all. 

[Mukey]

I don't think that it changes the flight characteristics at all. 

That is, unless part of the ribbon wraps around a finger prior to throwing! (Happened to me last year, LOL)

[Bruce Brakel]

Where do you get these ribbons, and how do you attach them to the discs?

You can go to Michaels or Walmart or any drug/deparment store and get some very narrow ribbon.  Get some good clear packing tape.  I think most people tape them to the bottom of the disc right in the center.  I think the lengths are typically 16" to 18".  I think some may tape to the top of the disc.  I don't think that it changes the flight characteristics at all. 

If you have enough discs that you can semi-permanently ribbonize them for the season, household Goop is much better than tape.  Tape will pop off in really cold conditions.  The goop you can peel off at the end of the season, but it is very strong. 

http://www.disclife.com/lt010202.shtml

[Cannon Boy]

It looks like it is going to be cold and windy, I think I am just going to local leages this weekend.