Nothin' But Chains - August 2nd-3rd, 2008

[4u2nv]

I agree with mike, as I will not be able to make a sunday tournament

[DiscCrazy]

I vote to keep it the same. AM3 on Saturday

[dana]

Sweet, I got Sunday off.

Regardless of my schedule, I say just leave it as is, it will be a nice change for those who can't make the IOS events on Saturdays. 

Weren't most Joliet area tourneys ran with Pro/ADV playing Sunday? 


Thanks for running tournaments, Scott!

[stpitner]

ok, format stays:

SATURDAY
Adv Master
Adv Grandmaster
Recreational
Novice
Juniors
All AM Women's divisions

SUNDAY
Open Men
Masters
Open Women
Advanced Men
Intermediate Men

This is how it originally was and this is how it will stay.  Sorry Mad City Open folks, but Joliet is far enough south that there's a whole different group of people.

There will be no custom stamped discs for this tournament, sorry.  There's not enough time.

[stpitner]

I was out at West Park today to check out the course and see what to do about hole 16/17.  I posted a sign on the board there talking about the tournament.

Hopefully everything will be cleared up tomorrow with the PDGA.

if those holes arent in by tourney time we could set up some temps up by the pavillion/ park area between 8 and 9. if i recall my buddy told me there used to be holes over there

I'm moving this conversation over here because it was lending to major thread drift.

Someone at Aurora over the weekend told me about a temp hole that would fit in between holes 8 and 9.  I heartily agree.  I'm sorry, but I don't know the name of the person that told me about this.  However, there's more than likely going to be a temp hole that goes from up close to the tennis courts back down to a small opening area beyond 8's tee and before 9's tee.  It fits in perfectly and keeps from having to walk back on 8's fairway to get to 9.

Hole 11's tee will also be moved forward.  For hole 16, the shot that went straight from 16's tee to 17's basket is about a 200 footer.  It's protected by trees and is a good way for me to use this basket, keep the flow going, and not require a bunch of extra work for myself to ensure that everything will work out ok.

I don't know what is normally done about parking for big tournament days.  There is so little parking near hole 1!  Because the pavilions will be in use by someone else that weekend, I think I'll probably set up tournament central right by the parking lot between hole 1 and hole 24.

[Mukey]

I was out at West Park today to check out the course and see what to do about hole 16/17.  I posted a sign on the board there talking about the tournament.

Hopefully everything will be cleared up tomorrow with the PDGA.

if those holes arent in by tourney time we could set up some temps up by the pavillion/ park area between 8 and 9. if i recall my buddy told me there used to be holes over there

I'm moving this conversation over here because it was lending to major thread drift.

Someone at Aurora over the weekend told me about a temp hole that would fit in between holes 8 and 9.  I heartily agree.  I'm sorry, but I don't know the name of the person that told me about this.  However, there's more than likely going to be a temp hole that goes from up close to the tennis courts back down to a small opening area beyond 8's tee and before 9's tee.  It fits in perfectly and keeps from having to walk back on 8's fairway to get to 9.

I don't know what is normally done about parking for big tournament days.  There is so little parking near hole 1!  Because the pavilions will be in use by someone else that weekend, I think I'll probably set up tournament central right by the parking lot between hole 1 and hole 24.

Scott, there are 3 holes that are not in at West Park, rumor has it due to complaining neighborhood dog walkers. The hole you described is one of them. There are Tee markers in the ground for them, not sure if there are sleeves in the ground or not. There is another that plays from by the bathroom to the corner of the park, and another that plays from a spot past 9's basket to a small aclove near the street, then you can take a small trail back to 10's Tee.

I've gotten there really early on tournament days and have always parked at the pavillion. I think everyone just parks on side streets.

[stpitner]

It will be tougher too with the construction ripping up that entire street along where 11, 16, and 17 are affected.

I'd much rather NOT add a temp hole, but it really felt silly playing 8, walking back the entire fairway and then moving on to 9.  I wish I could set up tournament central at that pavilion so that I could watch the basket, but I'm probably going to be on the other side of the park.

Hopefully it will dry out quite a bit too.. A bunch of tees were either wet or muddy.  I may have to go out and flag alternate tees to the side of the markers.

[dgnickster9224]

it should be dry by next weekend. west dries pretty fast.

[stpitner]

the pdga website displays the correct information now.

I was hoping to have a store set up to do the online registration, but I may have to just do the same thing that I'm doing with pre-reg @ Roselle.

[dgnickster9224]

How do we pre reg anyways.

[Mukey]

Scott, is it all short tees or will some of the longs be utilized? Thanks

[stpitner]

Scott, is it all short tees or will some of the longs be utilized? Thanks

I wrote down the distances for both tees, but I'm really not sure what we'll do.  The only tee that I had trouble finding at first was only #23, but I did find them all.  There's a good chance we'll use those longs 2nd round.  I don't think it would affect the round length a lot.

[stpitner]

How do we pre reg anyways.

PRE-REGISTRATION IS NOW OPEN!!!

http://www.paperorplasticsports.com/nothinbutchains.html

Visit that page - it has all of the details.  I'm trying something new - I found a way to create buttons that will process your payment through PayPal, and it all starts on my website.  It's pretty cool.  You DO NOT need a PayPal account in order to use this method.  There are separate sections depending on if you are a current or not-current PDGA member.

Pre-registration closes Thursday, July 31st, at 8 PM central time.

I expect a large turnout for this tournament, so please help the tournament process go smoothly and PRE-REGISTER!!

[airspuds]

are you going to cap the number of players

if you add the hole betweeen  8  and  9  (  8A)
you have to take in acct the pavillion that you said is reserved

reserve pavillion = lombard greek festival in my mind

that 8 a hole is a great hole though 
and mukey is right about sticking two others in that area
but you would need someone to watch the baskets

if you didnt want to add the 3 holes
i would eliminate 8  and  10  and shorten up 11
that gives the course flow still

[stpitner]

well, you could still play 9 and 10 after 7, just skipping 8 altogether.  I don't want to give up 11 - the only long hole on the course (ok, so 22 is semi long as well).  I'm also already giving up 16, so I don't want to lose TOO many holes, especially with the anticipated large turnout.  I'll have to look at the number of pre-registrations coming in and make a call.

At the minimum we'll have 22 holes - 110 people/day.  We're going to pay from 16's tee straight to 17's basket.

[discinfool23]

Scott,

Another idea to utilize the full 24 holes would be to put a temporary basket down near 17s basket and then use the temp tees across the streeet to shoot at 17. This way you can use the full 24 holes and only change the way the course is now very little. Let me know if you have any questions since I live less than 5 minutes from the course. Thanks!

Jason

[stpitner]

the way that the street is all torn up right now I don't think I want to go any closer to the street.  Yes, it will be the weekend, and the construction workers will probably not be out there, but when I was out there Monday heavy machinery was lumbering up and down the street.  I don't want to risk it, but thanks for the idea.

I also could just leave hole 8 in there and ask that everyone walk wide of the fairway on the way back so that the next group could start, and that builds in a slightly delay in people arriving at 9 - at the same time allowing a little padding time for groups to work on 11 (especially if you go left of the creek on 11 - I'm probably going to make that OB to keep the flow going.)

I'll try to make good records of everything that will be ok - there's some spots that could be really nasty too (like on or over the road on 22, not as much of an affect on 18 - although I realized later I threw towards 14 instead of 18 oops)

[stpitner]

Current Pre-registration list (still waiting for Karolyn to email me back with my tournament password to upload pre-reg names):

Saturday: (12)
Recreational
Kirk Romandine
Zachary Perschau
David Traxler
Christopher Clarke
Donald Cain
Mark Hoffman
Mukey

Rec Women
Amie Clarke

Novice
Mark Sylvester
Larry Leonardi

Advanced Master
Ron Miller

Advanced Grandmaster
Frank Grimes

SUNDAY: (5)
Open
Jason Rose
Ray Hill

Advanced:
Nate Winterstein

Intermediate
Cory Clements
Nathan Nelson

[dana]

So over the creek will be OB, what about over the roads? 

Traditionaly, West Park has played over both the creek and the road as in bounds. 

Thanks

[Mukey]

So over the creek will be OB, what about over the roads? 

Traditionaly, West Park has played over both the creek and the road as in bounds. 

Thanks

I've always played that the road is OB. Can come into effect on 4, 6, 10, 19, and 22. I believe Gary always played that OB also during his tournies.

Good call on making over the creek on 11 OB. That's usually the backup hole there and that should help.

You've got my $$, now I just need to make it through the week