Nothin' But Chains - August 2nd-3rd, 2008

[stpitner]

Paper or Plastic Sports Presents Nothin' But Chains - C-Tier
August 2nd and 3rd, 2008

NOTE THE DAYS!!
SUNDAY: All Pro, MA1, and MA2 divisions ONLY
SATURDAY: MA3, MA4, Advanced Masters, Advanced Grandmasters, and all other remaining divisions

Where is it at?  That will be announced next week.  All that I'll say is Joliet area.  I have to wait for official approval before posting that information.  There are two options that I'm weighing at this time.

Details to come soon...

[stpitner]

Anybody know how I can get ahold of Gary Lewis?  I tried calling the number that I had (it matched the one on jolietdiscgolf.com), and the answering machine cut me off.

I'm trying to be a Pro-C/Am-B tiered event in Joliet on August 2nd and 3rd.  I already have the sanctioning and weekend approval.  I want the event to happen in Joliet after the success at Channahon in March and many requests to come back down.

The park district gave me the ok to come out, but they said that for usage of the course itself Gary had to give the thumbs up to it.  The park district person said he contacted Gary who said it would take a week to check his schedule to make sure nothing is going on there that weekend.

I received that phone call from the park district 9 days ago.  I tried calling the park district person back, left a message.  I tried calling Gary, you already know what happened.

Would you like to see a nice split day event run Aug 2nd-3rd?  Help me out!

The location? West Park.

Thanks!!!

[OvEr HaNd AsSaSiN]

you should try to contact some of the guys that help run j-town leagues.  like daren and jessie they should know how to get a hold of them...

Also some of the holes are not in tourney condition.   They are doing road work in the area... 16 doesnt have a basket and 17's bad is in need of work... or needs to be moved for the tourney...

Also if you need any help with the tourney let me know i can get a group of people to get what you need done

[Mukey]

you should try to contact some of the guys that help run j-town leagues.  like daren and jessie they should know how to get a hold of them...

Also some of the holes are not in tourney condition.   They are doing road work in the area... 16 doesnt have a basket and 17's bad is in need of work... or needs to be moved for the tourney...

Also if you need any help with the tourney let me know i can get a group of people to get what you need done

He means at West Park. The sidewalk used for the Tee for #17 has crumbled off on the left hand side making it hazardous to ankles to tee off from there

And #5 at Channahon is also out at the moment

[skipache]

just so you know, i think some of the holes have to be moved/pulled because the city wants to widen the street...
effective soon...

[dana]

I hope that Pros will play Saturday. 

Sidenote: I saw Gary creep through the parking lot at West Park on Saturday. I wish I would have known, I would have stopped him and got an ok for ya.

[CEValkyrie]

I find it very odd that someone has to ask someone outside the park district for permission to run a tournament on a course.

If the park district purchased the baskets why would you have to ask Gary? If Gary purchased the baskets those are property of the players who have donated money via 50/50, auctions, etc.. over the years. No matter who purchased them they become park property once they are on park ground.

Just another weird example of a jacked up sport at times  .

[Bruce Brakel]

It used to be that you could not run a tournament at Hudson Mills without the permission of A3Disc.  Same situation as in Joliet, the park lady would tell you that you had to get A3Disc's permission.  This is how I would handle Gary ducking me on this: I'd leave him a phone message asking for his permission.  I'd give him a reasonable time to respond.  Then I'd tell the park district, "Yeah, I asked Gary and he did not have a problem with it."  Cuz if he had a problem with it, he would got back to me.    

[stpitner]

well if the phone machine didn't hang up on me while I was trying to leave a message, I wouldn't have had a problem

Wouldn't the guy at the park district (the superintendant of parks or whatever his title is) know about stuff like construction going on that would affect a particular park?

Regardless, it's not like we can't remove a hole or move a tee or something like that.  Thanks for the heads up though!

[airspuds]

what it is -

people dont realize that this is your/his  job/business/ bread and butter / roof over head stuff

i dont care who runs the T as long as there is a one to play and the payouts are legit


have you tried oly fields park district ?
would you have to ask brian c before u did ?

could u use frankfort and the frankfort square park 9 holers ?
would u have to ask gary ?

i think scott should be able to run a T where ever he wants (its his job)

its not like he pulls up next to the guy in his car and starts selling discs right there

i dont think there is price undercutting as an issue


lets play as i eying this as my next available T before rockford

60655

[Sr.]

I find it very odd that someone has to ask someone outside the park district for permission to run a tournament on a course.

If the park district purchased the baskets why would you have to ask Gary? If Gary purchased the baskets those are property of the players who have donated money via 50/50, auctions, etc.. over the years. No matter who purchased them they become park property once they are on park ground.

Just another weird example of a jacked up sport at times  .

Tax payers pay for the existence of the park so it seems logical that the park is fair game to anyone. Kudos for Scott to bring another tournament to West Park. Steady Ed would want it that way.

[Mukey]

I played a few rounds at Aurora today and there was a buzz among the people I talked to about an event at West Park, I think the turnout is gonna be great!

[stpitner]

All tournament information that I have presently is now posted on my website for this tournament.  I'm not anticipating any problems with resolving the course location, but please pay attention should any details change.

Pre-registration is not open yet, hopefully it will be open soon!

Registration Information

[pickax]

Scott your division/day information is inconsistent on the link above.

[stpitner]

argh, forgot to change the first paragraph when doing the copy paste.  The correct division info is listed with the entry fees.  I can't access my files while I'm at work (port is blocked), so I can't correct the rest of it until tonight.

Thanks for pointing that out Mike.

[discpro99]

open and adv on sunday correct?

[stpitner]

open and adv on sunday correct?

All Open divisions, Advanced Men, Intermediate Men are on SUNDAY.

All other divisions (note, this includes Advanced Master, Advanced Grandmaster) are on SATURDAY.

I did some rough estimates on how that would break the divisions down, and I'm hoping that it leads towards a good split.  It helps that there will hopefully be 23 or 24 holes (depending on how that one hole - I think 16? is), and that enables me to have a little leverage as far as field size.

[dana]

Darn.

[stpitner]

hmm... I may have to reverse my days.  I was trying to go opposite of the mad city open, and it looks like their pro/adv day is on Sunday as well.  I'm trying not to make this too confusing! lol.

<edit>
ok, so the mad city open has a 1 day lower tier AM's, and 2 day pro/adv.  So if you're going to the mad city open and playing pro/adv you're not playing my tournament anyway.  However, if you're a lower tier AM and would like to play both, then I need to put those divisions on Sunday.  I'd still have the conflict with MA2 no matter what I do, but this might be enough to make me at least change up some of it.

Maybe some rec players that would plan on playing both if they could can post here to help me feel better about making yet another change?

[pickax]

I don't think you are going to lose a lot of your lower AMs to Mad City. This is why alternating divisions is nice as players can choose their day w/o playing up multiple divisions. My vote is leave MA3 on Saturday as I don't think I can make it on Sunday.