2004 ILLINOIS OPEN SERIES

[Jon Brakel]

Hole 4 as is: 423 feet

did you consider having tee 4 go to 5's basket? There could be an alternate route over the bridge and then there's that OB fence to the left of 5's basket...

That stuff is Jon's call, but I like Damon's idea.  If the scorecard has already been produced it might be too late to change anything.    

I only have to make one card, so I was planning on neatly hand-writing it. I really like hole #4 because of the nice risk/reward choices, but going to basket 5 might make for a nice hole...I'll have to think about it.

[damonshort]

Hole 4 as is: 423 feet

did you consider having tee 4 go to 5's basket? There could be an alternate route over the bridge and then there's that OB fence to the left of 5's basket...

That stuff is Jon's call, but I like Damon's idea.  If the scorecard has already been produced it might be too late to change anything.    

now that I think about it, the 6 tee to 15 might take that bridge route from the other direction, so never mind...  

But is that last one really 'only' 431 ft?

[Jon Brakel]

Hole 4 as is: 423 feet

did you consider having tee 4 go to 5's basket? There could be an alternate route over the bridge and then there's that OB fence to the left of 5's basket...

That stuff is Jon's call, but I like Damon's idea.  If the scorecard has already been produced it might be too late to change anything.    

now that I think about it, the 6 tee to 15 might take that bridge route from the other direction, so never mind...  

But is that last one really 'only' 431 ft?

No, 6 tee to 15 basket plays all on the east side of the creek. 15 is the 700+ foot hole. This safari hole has a large tree in the middle of it about 1/3 down the fairway and then it has obsticles around the basket area.

[Bruce Brakel]

Hole 4 as is: 423 feet

did you consider having tee 4 go to 5's basket? There could be an alternate route over the bridge and then there's that OB fence to the left of 5's basket...

That stuff is Jon's call, but I like Damon's idea.  If the scorecard has already been produced it might be too late to change anything.    

now that I think about it, the 6 tee to 15 might take that bridge route from the other direction, so never mind...  

But is that last one really 'only' 431 ft?

Damon, only four people are playing the Final 4 so it does not matter if there are crossing fairways.

Jon, my statement, "maybe the scorecard is already done," was a joke.  I think someone could draw up a scorecard while someone else was yelling, "Bring it in."

[damonshort]

Hole 4 as is: 423 feet

did you consider having tee 4 go to 5's basket? There could be an alternate route over the bridge and then there's that OB fence to the left of 5's basket...

That stuff is Jon's call, but I like Damon's idea.  If the scorecard has already been produced it might be too late to change anything.    

now that I think about it, the 6 tee to 15 might take that bridge route from the other direction, so never mind...  

But is that last one really 'only' 431 ft?

Damon, only four people are playing the Final 4 so it does not matter if there are crossing fairways.

right; what I meant was the route would be used twice, but Jon's last post made me realize that I was thinking of the old numbering system at Streamwood, sort of; anyhow, the hole I was thinking of is actually 16 now.

[Jon Brakel]

Hole 4 as is: 423 feet

did you consider having tee 4 go to 5's basket? There could be an alternate route over the bridge and then there's that OB fence to the left of 5's basket...

That stuff is Jon's call, but I like Damon's idea.  If the scorecard has already been produced it might be too late to change anything.    

now that I think about it, the 6 tee to 15 might take that bridge route from the other direction, so never mind...  

But is that last one really 'only' 431 ft?

Damon, only four people are playing the Final 4 so it does not matter if there are crossing fairways.

right; what I meant was the route would be used twice, but Jon's last post made me realize that I was thinking of the old numbering system at Streamwood, sort of; anyhow, the hole I was thinking of is actually 16 now.

OK, I thought this thread needed one more quote-within-a!

I think we are going to make a change and play tee 4 to basket 5. I will measure before Sunday and the distance will be on the pro final 4 safari card. Thanks for the idea Damon. If the pros hate it, I'll just say "Well, Damon suggested it!"

[damonshort]

Hole 4 as is: 423 feet

did you consider having tee 4 go to 5's basket? There could be an alternate route over the bridge and then there's that OB fence to the left of 5's basket...

That stuff is Jon's call, but I like Damon's idea.  If the scorecard has already been produced it might be too late to change anything.    

now that I think about it, the 6 tee to 15 might take that bridge route from the other direction, so never mind...  

But is that last one really 'only' 431 ft?

Damon, only four people are playing the Final 4 so it does not matter if there are crossing fairways.

right; what I meant was the route would be used twice, but Jon's last post made me realize that I was thinking of the old numbering system at Streamwood, sort of; anyhow, the hole I was thinking of is actually 16 now.

OK, I thought this thread needed one more quote-within-a!

I think we are going to make a change and play tee 4 to basket 5. I will measure before Sunday and the distance will be on the pro final 4 safari card. Thanks for the idea Damon. If the pros hate it, I'll just say "Well, Damon suggested it!"

and I'll be sure to wear my orange shirt...

ya know, once you get all these semi-concentric boxes going with these replies they sort of start moving around.... ; especially if you stare at them too long.

And if you stare at them for a really long time you can see Venus.

[CEValkyrie]

If you'd like to volunteer on Saturday or Sunday to spot or help with anything, let me know. I really need someone to run the DISContinuum table in the morning on Saturday. Last year spotter received tourney stamped discs.  

[mirth]

Hole 4 as is: 423 feet

did you consider having tee 4 go to 5's basket? There could be an alternate route over the bridge and then there's that OB fence to the left of 5's basket...

That stuff is Jon's call, but I like Damon's idea.  If the scorecard has already been produced it might be too late to change anything.    

now that I think about it, the 6 tee to 15 might take that bridge route from the other direction, so never mind...  

But is that last one really 'only' 431 ft?

Damon, only four people are playing the Final 4 so it does not matter if there are crossing fairways.

right; what I meant was the route would be used twice, but Jon's last post made me realize that I was thinking of the old numbering system at Streamwood, sort of; anyhow, the hole I was thinking of is actually 16 now.

OK, I thought this thread needed one more quote-within-a!

I think we are going to make a change and play tee 4 to basket 5. I will measure before Sunday and the distance will be on the pro final 4 safari card. Thanks for the idea Damon. If the pros hate it, I'll just say "Well, Damon suggested it!"

and I'll be sure to wear my orange shirt...

ya know, once you get all these semi-concentric boxes going with these replies they sort of start moving around.... ; especially if you stare at them too long.

Its almost like a topographic map....

[mirth]

Jon - wanted you to know that Brett has Adrian Jr's prereg check... thats all I got on Sunday.

[ochreogre]

Just sent in the Pre-Reg forms for both Kyle and myself for Saturday.  I work in Lake Forest, so Jon should get them tomorrow or Thursday at the latest (I hope).

Been looking forward to this one for a while!  We'll see you Saturday morning if we don't see you sooner!

[zkeeper99]

I'll be sending in my pre-reg for Crystal Lake and Round Lake, but I'm not a PDGA member and have never played a tourney before.  Which division should I sign up for, Recreational? Intermediate?  Suggestions please.  

[Jon Brakel]

I'll be sending in my pre-reg for Crystal Lake and Round Lake, but I'm not a PDGA member and have never played a tourney before.  Which division should I sign up for, Recreational? Intermediate?  Suggestions please.

Have you played Crystal Lake or Round Lake? What kind of scores do you get?

[damonshort]

I'm reposting this after the barrage of stuff on the safari holes last night:

I'm hoping to play a round at Streamwood, maybe 2, this Wednesday, 5 pm-ish.  Thursday won't work for me, so it's Wed or nothing. Let me know if anyone else wants to play around that time...

[zkeeper99]

With playing Round Lake as a Par 3 all the way around, I usually shoot btw 1 to 4 under par.  I've only played Crystal Lake once this year, but didn't play it as a par 3.  I think I shot around 8 under or so using the posted par.  Thanks for the help, Jon!

[Jon Brakel]

With playing Round Lake as a Par 3 all the way around, I usually shoot btw 1 to 4 under par.  I've only played Crystal Lake once this year, but didn't play it as a par 3.  I think I shot around 8 under or so using the posted par.  Thanks for the help, Jon!

I play Round Lake around par, sometimes a few over and I play Rec. (I have a Recreational rating and I'm not afraid to use it!) I'd say if you can consistently play that course under par, then you'd probably be able to compete in Intermediate, but since you haven't played a PDGA event you are entitled to play Rec if you choose.

[Jon Brakel]

I'm reposting this after the barrage of stuff on the safari holes last night:

I'm hoping to play a round at Streamwood, maybe 2, this Wednesday, 5 pm-ish.  Thursday won't work for me, so it's Wed or nothing. Let me know if anyone else wants to play around that time...

I'll post here on Wednesday if I can. I won't know until tomorrow.

[damonshort]

I'm reposting this after the barrage of stuff on the safari holes last night:

I'm hoping to play a round at Streamwood, maybe 2, this Wednesday, 5 pm-ish.  Thursday won't work for me, so it's Wed or nothing. Let me know if anyone else wants to play around that time...

I'll post here on Wednesday if I can. I won't know until tomorrow.

Wed forecast looks bad... if I go I'll be leaving the orifice at 3 pm, will update my plans by then. Not playing in the rain if it's not real light.  

[D]

If you'd like to volunteer on Saturday or Sunday to spot or help with anything, let me know. I really need someone to run the DISContinuum table in the morning on Saturday. Last year spotter received tourney stamped discs.

Since I'll be playing Am Saturday, I can volunteer on Sunday.

Ride may be an issue though, since my car is now a pond of solidified liquid metal

[airspuds]

diron
i feel your pain

my car needs   AC, battery (starter)  oil change
hubcaps   light bulb for turn signal

wifes car needs light for turn signal and new windshield

due to kids softball playoffs sat and sun
and having good tix for the sox/scubs game on sunday  

ill be missing this T      

from the looks of things i bet that there will be a big crowd