Attached is the flyer for the 2007 DISContinuum Club Challenge this is a pdf. This is one page and has the contact information on the bottom of the flyer. Check the next post for the word document. Scoring rules will be similar to cross country scoring. Please see next post for word document.
Here is the word document. Scoring details are in the next post. All local club players are welcome. If you aren't in a club, join a club and come out and play. The DISContinuum Disc Golf Club provides many great benefits including this great site. Join up for $15.00 and get a great bag tag, meet new friends and play in club-affiliated events.
There are going to be two divisions. Open/Advanced and Intermediate/Recreational. Two rounds of 20 holes. Doubles in the morning and singles in the afternoon. If you are rated 915 or over you must play Open/Advanced even if your partner is less than 915. Scoring will be similar to high school cross country or golf events and is as follows:
The best three or four scores will count towards club points. If there are clubs A, B, C, and D, lets say the order of the finish is, A,B, B, C, D, D, A, A, A, A B, C, C, D, etc.
Club A gets 12, 6, 5 = 23 points
Club B gets 11, 10, 4, = 25 points
Club C gets 9, 3, 2 = 14 points
Club D gets 8, 7, 1 = 16 points
Even thought the fourth best player on the A club beat the four best players on the other clubs, that person is not included once the top three scores are counted for that club. If there are ties then the points are split evenly.
Depending on the number of teams we get, we will count the top three or four scores. If there are cali players we will try and accomodate them with partners, but their scores will not count towards doubles.
If you are interested in playing and/or have any questions please send me a personal message.
Thanks.
Sounds like fun! How far is this from down town?
About 45 miles. Eisenhower west to I-88 west to Orchard Rd. South on Orchard to Jericho Rd. West on Jericho Rd. about 1/2 mile to park on right left.
Damn this sounds like alot of fun...wish it wasnt on a sat. :'(....stupid work.
I take it if this goes well there will be more throughout the year?
I'll try to round up some guys from the area but I don't I'll be making it down...It's my mother's birthday. Maybe she'll want to come with!
Please see updated flyer. Lots of positive feedback and expecting quite a few people. If you are interested in playing please PM me so I can add you to the list. Thanks.
Here is a pdf of the updated flyer. Lots of CTPs and a great club trophy. Two rounds of 20 holes of fun. Bring your discs to trade or sell. All vendors welcome.
You might want to use colored sticker dots or colored stars [or both] on the cards to make it easier to tell who is on what team.
Quote from: bruce_brakel on March 01, 2007, 06:15:56 AM
You might want to use colored sticker dots or colored stars [or both] on the cards to make it easier to tell who is on what team.
Great Idea. Thanks.
Quote from: Tom McManus on February 19, 2007, 03:43:08 PMScoring will be similar to high school cross country or golf events and is as follows:
The best three or four scores will count towards club points. If there are clubs A, B, C, and D, lets say the order of the finish is, A,B, B, C, D, D, A, A, A, A B, C, C, D, etc.
Club A gets 12, 6, 5 = 23 points
Club B gets 11, 10, 4, = 25 points
Club C gets 9, 3, 2 = 14 points
Club D gets 8, 7, 1 = 16 points
Even thought the fourth best player on the A club beat the four best players on the other clubs, that person is not included once the top three scores are counted for that club. If there are ties then the points are split evenly.
Sorry to butt in, but your example isn't quite right. The scores should look like this:
Team A
1, 7, 8 = 16 points
Team B
2, 3, 9 = 14 points
Team C
4, 10, 11 = 25 points
Team D
5, 6, 12 = 23 points
The only reason I point this out is because the team with the lowest point total wins, so the finish order would be Team B, Team A, Team D, Team C. I was working under the assumption that there were no ties (always tricky because there are always ties in disc golf), that you counted only the top 3 scores, and that the 4th and 5th place finishers on Team A were not included in the scoring to puch the other teams' scores higher.
Again, I'm sorry if this post comes across like I'm a know-it-all jerk (lord knows there are enough of them on disc golf mesage boards as it is). I ran cross country throughout high school and college so I'm familiar with how it is scored and why it is the only sport that is scored that way.
I think that as long as you have a system that can be consistently applied you won't have a problem. I noticed that you said scoring would be similar to high school golf events as well, and I really think it's a good idea to just go with the golf scoring system and forget about cross country altogether. That way you won't have to deal with the headaches that would be created if Team A should win with one scoring format but Team B should win with another.
Ok, sorry for the long-winded post. I tried to make everything as clear as possible, but please PM me if you have any questions. I wish I could play in this event, but playing disc golf in 2 feet of snow in Minnesota the same weekend just sounds like too much fun! I hope everything runs smoothly. It's great to see some team events popping up now and again!
Are we using the non-official ratings for non-PDGA members who played the IOS last year?
Quote from: Mukey on March 01, 2007, 01:07:39 PM
Are we using the non-official ratings for non-PDGA members who played the IOS last year?
That is the plan. Aaron also has some ratings worked out for the Fox Valley contingent.
If anyone is interested in partnering for this, drop me a line.
How many people are going so far?
I was thining about plugging this at the tourney on Saturday, and just wanted to make sure there are still spots open.
Please note: You do not need a partner to attend. As long as you are affiliated with a club, we will try and match you up with a partner. There are still plenty of spots open based on the feedback I have received.
How many DISContinuum members plan on attending?
Please note: Due to unplayable conditions at Jericho Park (many holes under water) the tournament has been moved to Eagle Ridge in Oswego. Here are the directions: Rte. 88 to Rte. 59 south 3.5 miles, to a right on Rte. 34 (Odgen Ave.), 9.5 miles to a right on Rte. 25 (S. Madison St.), 0.7 miles to a right on Glendale Ave., 0.1 miles to a left on Ashlawn Ave., 0.5 miles to the park on left. Follow path over railroad tracks to course. All times remain the same. If you are a DISContinuum Member and plan on attending please contract Brett or I. Thanks.
Also, there is a park on Rte. 25 called Violet Patch Park that is directly below the course as well. This is where I am currently looking at having tournament central. With pavilions, bathrooms, picnic tables and a grill, this appears to be the best location.
To get there, follow the directions in the previous post except, rather than turning at Glendale Ave, stay on Route 25 for the .5 miles and the park will be on your left.
Also, if you would rather take an alternate route (a few less lights and higher speed limit):
Take I-88 to Orchard Rd South, Left at Rte 30 (east)1.5 miles, right on Briarcliff rd (1st lights after bridge), follow to end of rd, (there is a gas station at the bottom of the hill if you take a right rather than a left) left on Boulder Hill Pass for .25 miles to a right on Circle Drive West (there will be a sign for the Civic Center) follow to Ashlawn Ave, turn right (you will see the Civic Center at the intersection). Park is on the right immediately following the Civic Center. Follow bike path across the tracks.
Map is available at:
http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?latlongtype=internal&addtohistory=&latitude=DAhlhrA3ohrdpT5JI%2fm0Qg%3d%3d&longitude=vNTSz6q6lpCOsqf1gzoVKg%3d%3d&name=Civic%20Center%20Park&country=US&address=15%20Ashlawn%20Ave&city=Oswego&state=IL&zipcode=60543&phone=&spurl=0&&q=Eagle%20Ridge%20park&qc=Parks
Feel free to contact me as well if you have any questions or concerns at foxmetrodiscer@comcast.net.
I've started a topic in the GLDGC thread on the PDGA Discussion board. Hopefully you get some responses.
Quote from: can't putt on March 01, 2007, 01:33:27 PM
If anyone is interested in partnering for this, drop me a line.
Kurt & I are partnering up for this. Looks to be a lot of fun & if you haven't played the New Oswego yet, it's worth checking out.
Quote from: Tom McManus on March 04, 2007, 05:33:27 PM
Please note: Due to unplayable conditions at Jericho Park (many holes under water) the tournament has been moved to Eagle Ridge in Oswego.
The restrooms by the pool will be opened for the tournament. Maps of the course will be available on the board. You can park at Violet Patch Park or the Civic Center. You can find something to eat around the corners of Douglas & Rt. 34, and Douglas & Rt. 30.
We are hoping to get the cement teepads installed this spring, but they are not in right now. Just so you know that coming into this tournament. Other than that, we'll be preparing the course this week and getting things ready.
how much snow is there in oswego area?
what is the course like? good course?
The open holes do not have much snow remaining, the wooded holes have 2 inches or so in most spots.
As for the course itself, the length runs about 5000 feet. Most holes are in the 250 range with a few around 320 and one at 400. The longer holes are open, with some of the shorter holes requiring more finesse and accuracy. With the addition of the new 9 wooded holes, Eagle Ridge has become a much more technical course. Most of the holes are under 280', but require a great deal of accuracy due to the narrow (10') fairways with trees and schule on both sides. Do not get me wrong, these holes are deuceable, but require you to hit your lines.
If you do plan on playing the course this summer, I highly recommend playing it now. Most of the new 9 holes will become a blind shot after the leaves fill in this spring, so find your lines now while you can see the basket from the tee boxes.
In my opinion, the addition of the new holes has increased both the difficulty and enjoyability of a previously otherwise mundane course ;D
Quote from: CEValkyrie on March 04, 2007, 02:22:47 PM
How many DISContinuum members plan on attending?
Tony (Wkebrd3) and I are planning on going
There's a great bar near there I looove called Poorboy's Pub. It's got 1/2 lb. bar burgers for $5 >:D
It's at 238 Montgomery rd., Montgomery, IL. Only about 5 minutes from the course.
Not sure how fast they are for lunch, but I'm definetly hitting this up for beers & burgers after. I was over-stuffed when I hit this up for the "lunch" break when Gary held the Glow Event at Jericho in '05.
Weather looks good for Saturday. Warmest day in a long time.
I played Oswego this morning. The snow is gone from the open field and largely gone in the woods. What is left is packed snow and ice. Tee pads are in excellent shape (crushed limestone -- old 9, wood chips -- new 9) and completely free from snow and ice. Sub-freezing temperatures this morning made conditions just about perfect. Warmer temperatures will bring out the mud.
I'm planning on it. I forget, is it singles 1st round then doubles or the other way?
Quote from: damonshort on March 06, 2007, 03:26:45 PM
I'm planning on it. I forget, is it singles 1st round then doubles or the other way?
Doubles first round, singles second round.
Quote from: can't putt on March 06, 2007, 03:13:38 PM
Tee pads are in excellent shape (crushed limestone -- old 9, wood chips -- new 9) and completely free from snow and ice.
Tree Camp is largely responsible for that. He's been keeping up the course on his own time for years. Similar to what Frank Grimes does in Channahon.
(Tree is going to Texas this weekend for the Texas State Amateur Doubles Championship. So he won't be at the Challenge).
Could someone please tell me what time I can expect to be done this day? I am playing in the Rec division. I ham having dinner at my sister in laws that day and need to tell my wife what time it will get done.
It'll all depend on how many people show up, if conditions make the course play slower, etc., but a safe bet would be about 5 P.M. I'm figuring 3 hour rounds with a 1 hour lunch break, probably an over-estimate, but better be early vs. what you tell your wife than late. From married friends I know who disc golf, over estimating your time by a bit is good to earn brownie points for other events.
I would also think the doubles round would speed things up that day.
On average, it takes leagues about 2 1/2 hours for a round of doubles. As for singles play, it usually runs me and a group of 3 others roughly 2 hours if you are shooting around par.
Any word on the clubs who will be competing? Is Joliet going to be there?
Quote from: glasspipe on March 07, 2007, 02:51:36 PM
Any word on the clubs who will be competing? Is Joliet going to be there?
I have not heard from the Joliet Group. The clubs that have verbally committed are:
Fox Valley Metro
Discontinuum
Renegades
Disc Golf Alley
I believe that we will be done before 5:00 PM doubles should move pretty quickly and we are getting an early start.
I'm really looking forward to seeing this course for the first time and competing in my first ever event!
NOTE: There is a minor change to the format. We are playing singles in the morning and doubles in the afternoon. Having singles in the morning will allow us to get everyone on the course sooner. It will also allow everyone to get together and choose a partner for the afternoon round. You must have a partner prior to leaving for lunch. That will allow us to set up the afternoon rounds.
As a reminder: This is a club challenge, there may be some strategy involved in choosing your partner! Team scores!
You are welcome to come if you don't have a partner, as long as you are affiliated with a club. We will work at getting everyone a partner. As we are getting closer to the event, the response has been great.
Thanks.
Now, I was figuring that the doubles round would help everyone that has not played this course before a chance to have a partner help them find their lines and possibly "bail out" their partner before the singles round. Just a thought.
I talked to Tom last night. Having the singles round will speed up the process in the morning and give players time to decide partners for the afternoon. I'm also assuming if we took a poll most of the players would prefer the second round to be doubles.
after playing singles, its nice to look forward to just a doubles round in the afternoon.
So far Tom M, Brett C, Dan M, Chris M, Kurt K, Tony B, Josh Y, David B, & Damon S are playing for DISContinuum. Anyone else coming out? Looks like pretty decent weather for Saturday.
If the teepads are really sloppy, can we please have leeway of teeing off 'anywhere' as long as it's behind the flags? My lower joints will thank you. So will my doubles partner.
Although I guess if they're limestone or woodchips it should be OK.
Was out earlier today. The pads are dry except 2 of them and they will be fixed tomorrow, so we should have good teepads for Saturday. As well as a few spots that are a little wet from the thaw.
Fox Valley Metro is planning on haveing: Randy Morre jr and Sr, the Esquivel clan (5), the Camps, Aaron S, Ron M, Geoff J, Nick B, Tyler W, Rob M, Ryan S, Mike H, Matt W. give or take a few as well.
Quote from: Fox Metro Discer on March 08, 2007, 06:50:37 PM
Was out earlier today. Fox Valley Metro is planning on haveing: Randy Morre jr and Sr, the Esquivel clan (5), the Camps, Aaron S, Ron M, Geoff J, Nick B, Tyler W, Rob M, Ryan S, Mike H, Matt W. give or take a few as well.
Eric Johns will be there. It's good to see Randy Sr back in the game. After you left, we hooked up with the Esquivels. Markie launched a 425 footer on #3. And then he threw his Roc. It landed right in line with the basket (325 ft away). I think he's ready for the competition. :boxing:
Coming from The Disc Golf Alley Club will be:
Eric M.
Jim F.
Matt S.
Ben P.
Jay R.
Mark S.
And, possibly 2 more guys.
Quote from: E-Roc on March 09, 2007, 04:41:17 AM
Coming from The Disc Golf Alley Club will be:
Eric M.
Jim F.
Matt S.
Ben P.
Jay R.
Mark S.
And, possibly 2 more guys.
Excellent. Looks like we are going to get a great turnout. We will have some nice CTPs. Fox Valley has been working on the course to get it in good shape for the tourney. They were out yesterday and are going to be out today.
With those numbers it looks like we'll be flying through, at least in comparison to full-field IOS play.
I'm really looking forward to this & to seeing all my disc golf friends I haven't seen since Jack Frost came to town. It's kinda funny how many people you get to know in the small disc golf community.
On another note: Tyler you traitor! :P j/k
Big thanks to Tom, Fox Valley, and everyone else that is making this happen!
Quote from: CEValkyrie on March 08, 2007, 05:48:53 PM
So far Tom M, Brett C, Dan M, Chris M, Kurt K, Tony B, Josh Y, & Damon S are playing for DISContinuum. Anyone else coming out? Looks like pretty decent weather for Saturday.
I'm coming but without a doubles partner. Just hanging on and throwing discs. Should be a fun day.
Spike, Sully, Nick and myself will be there. Last thrown round was in November...yuck.
hey steve, you still got my blue Roc?
Who are the Renegades?
It might be interesting to calculate the average age of those attending for each club. ;D
Quote from: damonshort on March 09, 2007, 10:41:18 AM
hey steve, you still got my blue Roc?
Yep. I'll bring it tomorrow. I'd have gotten it to you sooner but I think the last time I played was the day I found it.
Is the Oswego course near places to eat lunch or is a location where we ought to bring our own?
Quote from: Chainmeister on March 09, 2007, 12:16:25 PM
Is the Oswego course near places to eat lunch or is a location where we ought to bring our own?
I think you're safe not bringing your own. I always come via Ogden to Douglas to Old Post & I've always seen eats on Ogden, but I usually go to that bar I mentioned if I'm hungry when I play Oswego.
Google maps reminded me: there's a Culver's, Portillo's, Jimmy Johns, & Red Robin right there.
Just eat a hearty breakfast, skip lunch, & go for burgers & beers at Poorboy's afterwards, like me. >:D
Depending on the first round I may be at Poorboy's for lunch :occasion14:
I would go but the ace fund and 12/18 fund at Fairfield this Sat is just to much to miss. Good luck guys.
Quote from: can't putt on March 09, 2007, 11:30:24 AM
Who are the Renegades?
It might be interesting to calculate the average age of those attending for each club. ;D
I will try to remember to ask guys to include their age when they register.
Come on out Neal!
What's your chances of hitting an ace vs. representing the club well & getting a sweet-ass trophy?
On the flip side, I know money talks...
Quote from: M. cephalus on March 09, 2007, 10:26:58 AM
Spike, Sully, Nick and myself will be there. Last thrown round was in November...yuck.
Sweet! Add Adrian Jr & Sr to the list as well.
I will be partnering with Jason Hall so we will be there too.
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How about not posting images at their raw size? 1200x900 is way too large for a message board attachment.
& BTW - Congrats to Fox Valley today!
Based on the weather, whoever chose the date can be my new stock market advisor!
This event was very enjoyable and a great idea. I'd like to see it continue and grow. Congratulations to Fox Valley Metro. Thanks, Tom, for setting this up.
I had a great time out there. That course was very fun. I enjoyed the challenge of all the new holes.
Congrats to Fox Valley for the win. I'm impressed at how fast that club is growing. It makes a big difference in the disc golf scene around he Chicago Area. Someone hit me up at the next event. I forgot to pick up a tag.
I want to thank all the supporters of DISContinuum. We took quite a few memberships and had a great showing considering it was an hour + trip for most of us. We have nearly 85 members already this year. WOW!!!
I was able to see some sweet shots & putts out there! Hopefully we can see some of that action on Discgolftv.com
It was fun. too bad the singles round didnt go better but anyway...Disc golf tv would be cool
Thanks to everyone that showed up to this great event! ;D What a way to kick off the year! I cannot believe how great the weather was, you cannot ask for more this time of year. Thanks to Tom and the members of DISContinuum for making this happen! I only wish I could have been there for the doubles round. Congratulations to Fox Valley for winning the sweet trophy ( Thanks Nathan, it looked great!!!).
I also have to give props to you DISContinuum members who came into the course blind and still tore it up; Great job!! I cannot wait until next year's challenge. Maybe we will have to move it a little closer to you guys?
Final results for the tourney will be available some time later today. Special thanks to Brett Comincioli for helping out in too many ways to list. Thanks to Aaron Scott and the Fox Valley Metro Disc Golf Club for helping to sponsor the event and get the word out. Thanks to Gary "Tree" Camp for doing a great job on the course. The course held up great for two rounds of 50 players. Nathan Fenton did a tremendous job with the club trophy; thanks to Adrian Sr. and Adrian Jr. for donating time and a nice CTP package; Mukey, Damon, and DB for running the CTP. I would also like to thank Abe Arenas for coming out and taking photos and videos of the event. He is doing a great job of capturing disc golf in the area and is going to put together a DVD of the event.
Thanks to all the players that came out to represent their clubs. Especially the players who came from up north and the city. Waking up and seeing that it was a sunny day made all the difference.
CTP Winners: 1. Dan Michler $23.00 2. Brett Comincioli $20.00 3. Chris "Mukey" Mukekenow $20 4. Roger Esquivel $20.00
I also wanted to add that I had a chance to play doubles with Brett against Roger and Roy Esquivel. Roger and Ray put on a putting clinic. Roger didn't miss many but when he did miss Ray picked him up. It was fun to watch. They are up and coming players.
Final results are attached!
There are 8 pages of results, so you might have to search a little for the data you are looking for. :P
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I still prefer this picture of McManus.
http://discontinuum.org/index.php?option=com_gallery2&Itemid=45&g2_itemId=71 (http://discontinuum.org/index.php?option=com_gallery2&Itemid=45&g2_itemId=71)
Here are the round ratings for Saturday's singles:
53 1006
54 996 62 916
55 986 63 906
56 976 64 896
57 966 65 886
58 956 66 876
59 946 67 866
60 936 68 856
61 926 69 846
Cool. I shot really well considering I shot par (60). Nicely above my rating. Too bad it doesn't count, but it's a throw in the right direction at least.
Thanks again to Tom and everyone else that made this event happen! Even though I was not able to attend I'm glad you guys ran this--I think team events are very cool and this was a great way to bring together some area clubs.
I only shot that 'well' (and missed at least 3 putts) *because* it didn't count. I think some of those scores might reflect going for the 'risk' and not getting the 'reward'. I hit almost 0 trees in my singles round and hit nearly every one of them during doubles.
Quote from: tjdub42 on March 14, 2007, 09:54:28 AM
Here are the round ratings for Saturday's singles:
53 1006
54 996 62 916
55 986 63 906
56 976 64 896
57 966 65 886
58 956 66 876
59 946 67 866
60 936 68 856
61 926 69 846
The rough ratings look nice until you consider that a 930+ player had a little frustration and played lefty for a while and had a sub 800 round. I suspect he wouldn't do that in a sanctioned tournament and that would certainly have an effect on the projected ratings. That being said, my round felt like it projected above.
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Quote from: Chainmeister on March 15, 2007, 10:46:16 AM
The rough ratings look nice until you consider that a 930+ player had a little frustration and played lefty for a while and had a sub 800 round. I suspect he wouldn't do that in a sanctioned tournament and that would certainly have an effect on the projected ratings. That being said, my round felt like it projected above.
Take Dan out and the ratings drop about 5-8 points
w/ DM w/o DM
53 1006 1001
54 996 991
55 986 981
56 976 970
57 966 960
58 956 950
59 946 940
60 936 930
61 926 919
62 916 909
63 906 899
64 896 889
65 886 879
66 876 869
67 866 858
68 856 848
69 846 838
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Quote from: Dan Michler on March 15, 2007, 12:22:32 PM
And if you don't believe me then watch the DVD fucko.
When I saw the scores and saw that I, who had played fair, had scored ahead of you, surprised, I asked what was up with that. Somebody said, "he played lefty." Based on the score I figured that was the case. Of course we all know that I should not assume because, well, you know what it makes of you and I. Nonetheless, it appeared to be a reasonable assumption as I would surmise that you would beat me most times even if you did play lefty. Clearly, you had a lousy day. Lousy to the point where your round would not have been counted even if it was a sanctioned event as it is more than a couple of standard deviations from your rating. Lousy to the point where you had an 8 point effect on the way rounds would have been rated. Sorry you had such a bad day. Get it out of your system and blow them away in your next sanctioned tournament. I will not bother to watch the DVD. I am not on it and you were not worth watching on that day. I will watch, and enjoy, the video when you win your next tournament.
ChainMiester said the lefty comment not Mukey. Mukey did not necessarily know it was you when he said the line containing "never understanding"..... besides everyone but 2 people beat me and I had an OK day... Yikes!!!! We all have moments and its a sport for fun.......
All clearly a misunderstanding.......
(on a side note, I should just shut up)
Its okay guys. sorry about the harsh words, but I would prefer if both of you would address me initially before making it a public forums issue. I don't enjoy being singled out as a quitter anymore than you would.
Quote from: Dan Michler on March 15, 2007, 12:59:27 PM
Its okay guys. sorry about the harsh words, but I would prefer if both of you would address me initially before making it a public forums issue. I don't enjoy being singled out as a quitter anymore than you would.
Done! 'Nuff said on this, let's leave it be
Thanks for supplying the ratings Tyler. This was absolutely a group event in all ways. Everyone pitched in to help out.
Photographs from the 2007 Discontinuum Club Challenge are up:
http://foxvalleymetrodiscgolfclub.com/
If viewing a slideshow, a good setting is....delay: 5 seconds, max size: 800 X 800.
All photographs are also available at thier original size, if you want to copy any of them.