Innova Destroyer

[CEValkyrie]

The destroyer is a very strong disc. It is not flippy like the wraith. The big arms are going to like this disc a lot.

[Working Stiff]

The Destroyer should definitely be in that TeeRex-Max-Firebird overstable category.  If you can get good D from those discs, the Destroyer is worth a pull.  If you can't throw a TeeRex-Max-Firebird, than the Destroyer isn't going to do much for you.

It's a cool disc.  I can't throw it, but I like to watch people who can let it fly (so long as they are not on my card!)  It goes far.

Davey Mac posted this in a discussion about wide-rimmed drivers:

The Illusion and Blurr wing have widest wing by Gateway followed closely by the Speed Demon-DT, Spirit and Rage which are all wider than any other disc that is pdga approved besides the epic!

I have not seen a destroyer but if its the same as a spectra than the above statement is true!

If the wings of the discs get much bigger it will be awfully hard to get high end TPU's to weigh under 175 grams because the volume of the mold will be to high.

If the cubic CM of a disc is 160 and the plastic weighs 1.1 the discs will weigh around 176 grams! There are blowing agents and specialty blends that help reduce weight but most effect the quality of the polymer and make it less durable!

( an illusion with its massively thick and long wing is 165 cubic cm which is why we have a hard time getting the weights under 177) The blurr has 12 cubic cm taken off the disc on the top and is around 153 cubic cm!
Its way easier to jam more plastic in a disc to get it to weigh more than back off and have it weigh less. You come up with short shots with parts not fully packed out! ( X-OUTS)

In order to have longer wings the wing would have to have a lot of concave ( not flat or convex) on them causing them to be really overstable or the nose would have to be sharp or flight plate really thin to keep the volume under 160 cubic cm at 21 cm in diameter!
Lower end plastics weigh around .91-93 specific gravity with out filler which will allow for wings to be be up to 2" or more and would allow for an over all volume of close to 190 cubic cm, staying under the 200 gram limit!
So the wings of discs CAN get larger but most likely high end plastic would not be able to be used.

If anyone has any information on a high end polymer that can be used for golf discs that weighs less than 1.1 specific gravity, I will gladly pay for the information.

To go along with that, Dave Dunipace has repeatedly said the disc like the Destroyer are generally not released in DX because they can't get a consistent run in the lower end plastic.  So, there may need to be some advances in plastic technology before the rims can get much bigger.  It sounds like they can make a disc with a wider rim if they go to a wider diameter to keep the weight legal, but the wider diameter will slow the disc down and kind of defeat the purpose.

Maybe Innova can retool some of the old discs.  How about a wide rimmed Scorpion? 

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[discpro99]

anyone know where i can get my hands on one of these badd mamm jammas

[Mukey]

anyone know where i can get my hands on one of these badd mamm jammas

go to a search engine & search for "Innova Destroyer"

you'll get several different online vendors

[discpro99]

anyone going to have some for sale friday at the invitational?

[discpro99]

anyone going to have some for sale friday at the invitational?

never mind sunking hooked me up

[tacimala]

I won't have one for sale on Friday, but if I'm able to make it you are more than welcome to toss it.

[ParkerJ152]

I have 25 Destroyers being delivered Monday if anyone is looking for one. 5-165-169g & 20-170-175.
You can email me at ParkerJ152@aol.com

Thanks,
Jason w/ Action Sportz Disc Golf

[discpro99]

got my destroyers in the mail last night and threw it a couple times in a field by my house and let me tell you this disc is the real deal holyfield.

[Mike S]

Picked one up yesterday just for the hell of it...  Threw it a few times at BG, just trying for distance.  I got a couple throws past the lightpost on top of the hill on hole 1, which is around 390-400' uphill.  I dont normally throw that far.  That being said, I also had a few throws land only about 300'.

To me, it flew like a faster wraith with less glide.  It moves so fast that it gets out quite a ways before hyzering out.  But if you dont get it up in the air, it doesnt matter how fast its going...  Its just going to drop to the ground a few hundred feet out.  It doesnt have any glide, its just a super fast projectile.  Not good for low, line-drive shots at all.

Flies further on a high hyzer line than anything I've thrown.  Throwing anhyzer with no ceiling and a lot of left-right room to work with, I think this could also be the longest pure distance disc I've thrown.  People at fairfield will probably love them.  But it didnt seem practical enough for controlled golf shots to me.  I'll stick with the star wraith for my distance shots for now.

[ParkerJ152]

They are nice. I've sold 20 of them in 2 days. People are going nuts over them.

[airspuds]

pm me how much there are

i heard it will cost you a first born child

[ParkerJ152]

Nah, my prices are low. I have 20 more that will be here Friday if anyone else is looking.
Jason

[discpro99]

parked hole 12 yesterday at round lake with a destroyer into a head wind.   thats the first time i have ever parked that hole. everyone should have one of these in there bag at all times.

[stpitner]

I received an email from a customer today that he was a little disappointed with the Destroyer because it seemed to get nicked up pretty quickly around the edge of the disc.  Anybody whacked a couple trees and noticed if it is holding up as well as your other Star Plastic?  I have not been able to order any of the Destroyers yet for my own inventory to check them out.

[discmonkey]

parked hole 12 yesterday at round lake with a destroyer into a head wind.   thats the first time i have ever parked that hole. everyone should have one of these in there bag at all times.

Unfortunately, not everyone can throw 500+ feet into wind.    

[ParkerJ152]

I've not noticed the nicks, but the foil on the destroyers are defective. If you take a wet paper towel & rub the foil, It comes right off. The foil under the colored foil is silver.

[Working Stiff]

I've not noticed the nicks, but the foil on the destroyers are defective. If you take a wet paper towel & rub the foil, It comes right off. The foil under the colored foil is silver.

That is pretty typical, especially if the hotstamp is that purple metallic design.  Most of my purple metallic Innova hotstamps have rubbed off fairly quickly to show the silver base underneath, and that has been going on for at least 15 years.  I've never worried about it...once you throw it you have ruined your resale value anyway. 

Hey, has anybody thrown the Destroyer and the Blurr?  I have mostly heard people compare the Destroyer to a Wraith or TeeRex, but I was wondering how it compared to other companies drivers.  I have a friend who told me that the Illusion and Blurr were still faster than the Destroyer, but he lives in St. Louis and drinks the McCormack Kool-Aid so his info is suspect.