Mary Jane Kindness

[lawofdisorder]

Just curious to know what all of you think about the hatefullness towards potheads (the creators of the game are speculated to be and large portion of the players are stoners)

I have noticed in recent times that a growing number of better than everyone disc golfers have started appearing in massive doses. These are the ones who threaten to report and if you light up

What gives?? If somebody wants to light up, it is their business and it is your choice whether or not to join in. Throughout history people have been persecuted and accosted for rediculous things. The most rediculous of all being a bunch of people throwing frisbees at a target saying that others doing the same thing should not be permitted to smoke pot. Well.... heres what i have to say to that. *BLEEEEEH*

Does anyone else feel the same way? Its not like everyone doesnt enjoy a buzz, so what is the big deal. Aside from the obvious legal problems, there are NO negative affects to tetra-hydroxy-cannibinol (THC) or Marijuana. For many players, myself included, anxiety and stomach upset are problematic and natural medication proves more effective and cheaper than pharmaceutical drugs. Others enjoy catching a buzz with some buddies and enjoy the outdoors in an athletic way. Who feels that they are right to judge people and to police them as if they had some authority.

I for one will continue to toke up and enjoy the sport rather than play with spoiled little brats, feeling nervous and suffering stomach upsets.

REPLY PLEASE

[Brian]

Well to start it is illegal.  I don't think that the federal government will give the PDGA a pardon on that law.  

I don't smoke and don't care if people do, however, some people may feel like they are in a spot that they don't want to be in.  So in order to avoid the position they will enforce a rule.  Your freedoms stop when they negatively impact someone else's.

The sport will have to evolve when it gains popularity and mainstream starts to play.  So your pot smoking may have to be limited and not done during rounds.  Look at what happened with ball golf and clubs (Augusta) not allowing women to play or people of different ethnicities to play either.  

If someone doesn't want to be around you smoking pot, than just do it in between rounds.  

[Brian]

NO negative affects to tetra-hydroxy-cannibinol (THC) or Marijuana

Are you sure about this?  Do you mean to tell me that I can't find a single research study that gives data to suggest that there is no negative impacts of pot?  

Throughout history people have been persecuted and accosted for rediculous things. The most rediculous of all being a bunch of people throwing frisbees at a target saying that others doing the same thing should not be permitted to smoke pot.

As a teacher of history this statement is asinine.  

Feel free to post back.  

[mirth]

being a former smoker, I used to wonder the same thing... but now that I'm a parent, I would respectfully ask anyone in my group to refrain from lighting up if my kids are tagging along. The same might apply for cigarettes.

It is the very mentality that disc golf has been and always be a 'stoner sport' that prevents us from garnering national attention and major sponsorship for the PDGA tour.

What you do in the privacy of your home or car is up to you, however what you decide to do while in a public space affects more than just you. When in doubt, poll the other people you're playing with if its cool with them. If one person has reservations, then perhaps consider waiting until the end of the round.... And remember, if you're playing in a sanctioned event you risk DQ.

[Brian]

It is the very mentality that disc golf has been and always be a 'stoner sport' that prevents us from garnering national attention and major sponsorship for the PDGA tour.

So true, so true.

[Dan Michler]

NO negative affects to tetra-hydroxy-cannibinol (THC) or Marijuana

Are you sure about this?  Do you mean to tell me that I can't find a single research study that gives data to suggest that there is no negative impacts of pot?  

Throughout history people have been persecuted and accosted for rediculous things. The most rediculous of all being a bunch of people throwing frisbees at a target saying that others doing the same thing should not be permitted to smoke pot.

As a teacher of history this statement is asinine.  

Feel free to post back.

actually marijuana is a carcinogen.

[Jon Brakel]

It is the very mentality that disc golf has been and always be a 'stoner sport' that prevents us from garnering national attention and major sponsorship for the PDGA tour.

So true, so true.

I disagree on this point. Snow boarding has been doing just fine. I think what keeps us from getting major sponsorship is that no one watches this sport and few people make any money from the sport.

That being said, I do think that people should keep their illegal activities out of the parks and other public areas. I'm not a smoker, but I don't care if people smoke...I just think they should keep it out of the parks. If the smokers can get it on a ballot, I'd vote to make it legal...until then I think we should keep it clean in the parks.

[Bruce Brakel]

Jon said pretty much what I was about to say:

I'm libertarian about what you do at home when you aren't driving a car anytime soon.  But Miss Marcia might not be, so don't move in next door!  

Courses get pulled because of disc golfers smoking marijauna within plain view or plain smell of mom and the kids on the tot lot.  If loud clothing was getting courses pulled I'd tone it down a little.  I wish the 420 crowd would.  We may have lost our home course permanently because of public dope smoking.  It is a bummer.

[Chainmeister]

I think there is no question that the Wilmette course was pulled years ago because of the perception that disc golf was a stoner sport.  Frankly, I am not sure whether golfers were caught smoking or whether the NIMBY attitude just assumed they were.  However, given the time period (late 70's early 80's) there probably was a lot of smoking going on.  I personally do not care whether people smoke, drink or whatever.  I find cigarette smoking more annoying than pot (or cigar or pipe)smoking.  It smells worse. However, if people are discrete I really don't care.  My only concern is the public perception that will close off access to parks.  What's the recipe? be a citizen.  Don't litter.  Put butts, bottles, roaches whatever, in the garbage. Yell, "fore" when needed.  Act sensibly with other park users.  Do not do foolish and obvious things in full view.  Know when it is and it is NOT appropriate to do things.  There is a time and a place for things.  If you are in a park with kids etc, use your brain.  If you are in the woods and away from civilization, use common sense.  If the powers that be felt that drinking, smoking etc should not be done at tournaments, so be it.  A tournament is different from a casual round.  As for the lack of exposure for the sport...its a lot of fun to play, but is not terribly sexy for the general public.  I can't snowboard, but think it looks cool on TV.  Disc Golf would be like bowling.  ZZZZZ for the public.  

[Dan Michler]

dude, watch the marshall street DVD and then tell me if u like watching snowboarding better than that.

[drdye]

I say live and let live....unless your hurting someone in the process.


I think smopkers should always kept it on the "down low".  I think anyone who would like to smoke during a round, be it at a tourney or just with friends, should ask everyone in the group and make sure no-one is uncomfortable with it.  If someone is uncomfortable with it, then you just shouldnt smoke.  

Just legalize it and we will never have this problem

[shawn]

I personally hate cigarette smoking...  it is disgusting, smells bad and the butts all over.  If you have to smoke in my group, keep it downwind from me..  Would be nice to have pdga events non-smoking for all.

[CEValkyrie]

I don't really care what other people do to themselves, however, when courses start getting pulled, then it becomes a problem i'm concerned with.

http://www.gmtoday.com/news/local_stories/...03012005_04.asp

[Dan Michler]

the only time it really bothers me personally when i'm on the course is when i'm playing a round at a decent pace and suddenly we have to stop and take a break in the woods.  i like to keep moving     ready golf!

[Mike Clark]

I think that what people do in thier private life is thier own business. But when it affects other people then you have a problem. If you are doing something illegal and you are bothering someone else you have a big problem. Such as courses being closed or smoking in PUBLIC PARKS where parents and children hang out.
Remember we play in publicly owned parks for the most part. Bottom line is that smoking weed is illegal. So if you are smoking in a public park and someone has an issue with it then you are in the wrong and should not do it. Like some of the others said find another way. Just be respectful of other people.

Oh by the way I do agree with making weed legal. What makes it so different from acohol? Get it on a ballot and I will vote!

[Clonefan94]

Well, as it was stated before, it is illegal. I wouldn't stand around and watch you steal from a store without telling someone. I don't consider pot smoking as bad as stealing, but, I know there are people who think a law is a law and if you are breaking it, it's illegal. I personally don't care what you do, as long as it doesn't effect my game. I'm definitely with Brett here in the fact that when it starts closing down courses, you should stop. I love to drink beer, but, I'd rather play disc golf when I'm out to disc golf. If I'm not supposed to drink beer on the course, I don't. I can drink beer afterward. The same goes with cigars. I like to smoke the occasionial cigar while throwing. If you don't want me to smoke, fine, I totally understand and don't have a problem with not smoking. I usually ask before lighting it up anyway.

I guess the question I pose to the pot smokers is this. Arent you out there to play disc golf? You may be infringing on people in your group by smoking as much as you feel they are infringing on you by not letting you smoke. If you think about it, you have plenty of time to be high. For the most part, it's no more than an hour and a half of not smoking.

I have friends who are cops. I know for a fact their first instinct is to assume everyone in a given group is smoking pot. Guilty by association until proven otherwise. Their thought being "You know  it's illegal. Yet you still hung out with the guy?" So I can definitely see where some peoples distaste lies.

[tree]

I think that what people do in thier private life is thier own business. But when it affects other people then you have a problem. If you are doing something illegal and you are bothering someone else you have a big problem. Such as courses being closed or smoking in PUBLIC PARKS where parents and children hang out.
Remember we play in publicly owned parks for the most part. Bottom line is that smoking weed is illegal. So if you are smoking in a public park and someone has an issue with it then you are in the wrong and should not do it........ Just be respectful of other people.

I prefer to play with players that respect my right NOT to breath their smoke and I agree with:  what people do in their private life is their own business.

I'm not sure about whether marijuana should be legal or not.

[Dan Michler]

I do think that percentage-wise, alot less players smoke than say 5 years or so ago.  Thats prolly just because the sport is becoming so much more popular.  Eventually I think the "stoner-sport" label will start to go away.

[Younk]

It's all about common (?) courtesy.  I don't know if it can be called common anymore because so many people really have no respect for others...*save that rant for another day*
If it is going to bother someone around you then don't do it.  Just be aware that some people don't like it and be courtious.

I use to smoke quite a bit when I was younger but don't now, besides but I can't play very well if I smoke herb so I choose not to.

[Dan Michler]

i think most golfers around here know that it doesn't really bother me if u want to smoke while we play.  i don't personally smoke, but thats just me.  However, don't u guys get embarrassed when u are holding up a group behind u when there is nobody in front of u, all cuz u have to take a 5 minute smoke break??  keep it moving yo!  have some frickin courtesy on the course and don't hold everybody up for this.  i'm sick of it.  

some people seem to be able to smoke and keep things moving while they do it, but then others make it into a big ordeal where 3 dudes end up sitting around passing around a bowl for 5 minutes.  save it for after the round.  

if this is the only reason u play disc golf then quit playing disc golf and just find some buddies to go smoke weed in the woods with you.