2004 Presidential Elections

[New Guy]

Golly, would I get to drive the VW microbus sometime and wear flowers when at the commune?

[New Guy]

Jim, now that you mention the name Waco.... what's your take on the rational of the Democrat administration ordering those women and children to be slaughtered? Then sending a child, who's mother died getting to this country, back to Castro?

[jim]

Waco was a tragedy, even if it did happen in texas.
As for Cuba, the kid might be better off in the long run. If he lived here, we'd just blow a bunch of tax money on forcing him to take ESL classes.
It will be better when he gets older and receives a working visa, stealing yet another job away from permanent residents.

About all those jobs lost because of 9-11, many of those you listed are in the service industry/field, which is primarily populated by seasonal workers. Seasonal workers are primarily non-resident hispanics. So, as far as I'm concerned, we didn't lose many jobs at all. The 20,000+ people hired into/because of the Dept of Homeland Security aren't complaining.

On another note, I must say that Howard Dean is an embarrassment. During an NPR interview yesterday, he snapped at the interviewer because he couldn't backpeddle fast enough. Any candidate who begs for campaign money more frequently than he talks about issues is lost. The 50,000 he raised from mainly public donations yesterday (website and direct) is money that could have been useful somewhere else.
"A sucker is born every minute." - PT Barnum
"And a child shall lead them." - Jesus Christ
"...and a sucker shall lead them away..." - Scooter

[Jon Brakel]

About all those jobs lost because of 9-11, many of those you listed are in the service industry/field, which is primarily populated by seasonal workers. Seasonal workers are primarily non-resident hispanics. So, as far as I'm concerned, we didn't lose many jobs at all. The 20,000+ people hired into/because of the Dept of Homeland Security aren't complaining.

As I said before, the 1/3 of the headquarters staff of our sister company would greatly disagree with your assessment as none of them are seasonal workers. All of them were white collar job types. Same with those who lost their jobs in our company. And they all received 9/11 unemployment benefit extensions.

[jim]

I recieved the following in an email today. Worth the read:

If senators or U.S. reps. were part of SS, many problems would long
since have been ironed out.  I think all newcomers should be on SS, and present
members grandfathered.  


GET A BILL STARTED TO PLACE ALL POLITICIANS ON SOC. SEC.

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SOCIAL SECURITY:  

Perhaps we are asking the wrong questions during election years.

Our Senators and Congresswomen do not pay into Social Security and, of course, they
do not collect from it.

You see, Social Security benefits were not suitable for persons of their rare
elevation in society. They felt they should have a special plan for themselves. So,
many years ago they voted in their own

benefit plan.

In more recent years, no congress person has felt the need to change it. After all,
it is a great plan.

For all practical purposes their plan works like this:

When they retire, they continue to draw the same pay until they die.

Except it may increase from time to time for cost of living adjustments.

For example, former Senator Byrd and Congressman White and their wives may expect to
draw $7,800,000.00 (that's Seven Million, Eight-Hundred Thousand Dollars), with
their wives drawing $275,000.00 during the last years of their lives.

This is calculated on an average life span for each of those two Dignitaries.

Younger Dignitaries who retire at an early age, will receive much more during the
rest of their lives.

Their cost for this excellent plan is $0.00. NADA....ZILCH....

This little perk they voted for themselves is free to them. You and I pick up the
tab for this plan. The funds for this fine retirement plan come directly from the
General Funds;

"OUR TAX DOLLARS AT WORK"!

From our own Social Security Plan, which you and I pay (or have paid) into, -every
payday until we retire (which amount is matched by our employer)- we can expect to
get an average of $1,000 per month after retirement.

Or, in other words, we would have to collect our average of $1,000 monthly benefits
for 68 years and one (1) month to equal Senator Bill Bradley's benefits!

Social Security could be very good if only one small change were made.

That change would be to jerk the Golden Fleece Retirement Plan from under the
Senators and Congressmen. Put them into the Social Security plan with the rest of us
... then sit back and watch how fast they would fix it.

If enough people receive this, maybe a seed of awareness will be planted and maybe
good changes will evolve.

How many people can YOU send this to?

[Bruce Brakel]

I'm not sure what Bruce means re: Kerry's personal details, but I imagine the so-called 'liberal media' will ferret them out;

Anybody watching the headlines?  Kerry has a mistress he sent to Africa hoping that if the press got wind of it, at least they could not find her and put her on the cover of Time magazine.  It's on Drudge.

Wasn't it Grover Cleveland who won by a landslide after news leaked of his mistress whom he sent to Europe?

There are more personal details to come, but I'm sure Joe Lieberman is already kicking himself for quitting early.  I doubt Old Joe has anything on the side in a good long time.

[damonshort]

I'm not sure what Bruce means re: Kerry's personal details, but I imagine the so-called 'liberal media' will ferret them out;

Anybody watching the headlines?  Kerry has a mistress he sent to Africa hoping that if the press got wind of it, at least they could not find her and put her on the cover of Time magazine.  It's on Drudge.

Wasn't it Grover Cleveland who won by a landslide after news leaked of his mistress whom he sent to Europe?

There are more personal details to come, but I'm sure Joe Lieberman is already kicking himself for quitting early.  I doubt Old Joe has anything on the side in a good long time.

one difference between Democrats and Republicans is that a Democrat will only screw one person at a time...  

[jim]

adulteration without representation?

[mirth]

http://homepage.mac.com/webmasterkai/kaicu...onestdubya.html

[jim]

man, that bushy can really hork a pretzel!

[jim]

http://www.kaicurry.com/gwbush/more.html

check out the links and be very afraid

more stuff:
http://www.nrdc.org/bushrecord/2003.asp

[Bruce Brakel]

Just thought I'd post a politically themed dyed disc in the politically themed thread.  I doubt I'll find a buyer for this one.  I think there are six conservative disc golfers in the entire country and four of them throw Innova.

[Bruce Brakel]

I actually ask for and received permission to use that artwork.  I'm not suposed to sell the disc, and I have to plug the website.  So, if you want the matching t-shirt, check out www.thoseshirts.com

[Bruce Brakel]

One of those six saw the disc posted either here or at pdga.com.  R Magnus might have a new home.

[CEValkyrie]

That dye came out very nice. You are getting better. It's not like you have a bunch of plastic you can practice on.    

[Jon Brakel]

Bush eats only the best cole slaw! (I'm still not going to vote for him though)    

[airspuds]

my buddy is such a kerry fanatic that

i have no choice to vote for W

sorry

[damonshort]

i have no choice to vote for W

oh, yes you do, yes you do  

[D]

*my* political opinion


screw bush

[airspuds]

lets just hope the supreme court doesnt have
to decide who 's going be president

if gore carried Tenn (his home state)  he would have won the election
the usa would still be where it is today
which is not a good place

america is so wishy washy on every topic

there are at least 100 possible discussions on (eveything)
bush vs gore
bush vs kerry
war record vs no war record

taste great     less filling

the trading floor i worked on was heavy republican
im a daley democrat (that means i vote for king richard twice every election)

state elections   i tend to vote for the lesser  evil

g ryan is a child killer
blajoyavich is a thief like all politicians r
porchard  ??
orberweiss  ?/

i was planning on voting for Jack Ryan
(who cares that he took his hot wife to clubs ? )
his party   now look who is running  
keyes

omg  

working on a trading floor translates into many
varied discussions on everything from politics to sports
there is no holding back in discussions because most
traders work for themselves and not in the real corporate sense
of work environments ( this means there are usually no
repercussions of what you say how u say it or how loud u say it)

at most work places u just cant yell out  bush ******  ******  ******

the floor was a great place to work  (imagine high school)

i listen to all opinions, will not force my views on anyone,
but u r NOT going to change my opinion/views/voting habits

i ve found that people who dont work on the trading floor
arent as flexible in their thinking about certain subjects
and are more prone to emotion in their discussions
(thats a reference to my one buddy)

God Bless America !

(it is a great place to live -  look at all the disc courses we have)
(oh is using God there  politically correct or not  -  oh well)

in the alan keyes world you have to ask yourself

what kind of disc would Jesus use ?