2004 Presidential Elections

[jim]

OK, we all know that DISContinuum cannot endorse any specific political affilliation or stance. Nor would we want to.  But we'd still like to encourage people to vote - because every vote counts!  So tell us your thoughts on which candidate will best lead this country through the next four years........

[jim]

I will vote for Al Sharpton in the primaries. Unfortunately, he'll never gain momentum and I'll be forced to throw my support behind Kerry - but only because Nader isn't running......

[Bruce Brakel]

I will vote for Al Sharpton in the primaries. Unfortunately, he'll never gain momentum and I'll be forced to throw my support behind Kerry - but only because Nader isn't running......

Don't you like what the Botox has done for Kerry's looks?  Check out the pictures at www.drudgereport.com if you have not seen the before and after shots.  Personally, I think he looks great without the hound dog wrinkles, but Bush's Botox job in 2000 looked more natural.

While Kerry's people are busy saying, "What Botox?" the "bunny lines" are giving Kerry away.  Look for the smiling picture that has no forehead furrows but does have little parallel wrinkles on the side of his nose that look like kitty or bunny whiskers.  Those are the bunny lines that will give away any Botoxified face when they smile.  It is caused by a muscular compensation in the little muscles in the nose that don't get paralyzed and are working all by themselves to do the work formerly done by a whole face full of tiny muscles.

I think Kerry's not so well known personal details will kill him in the general election, if the other primary candidates give up and give him the nomination.  But will they?  At this moment Dean still has the lead in delegates because he has more super-delegates, and Kerry has not won more than 40% in the two tiny states that have weighed in.  Dean may have marginalized himself with the Iowa Wail but Edwards could pick up steam in the South.  If it looks like a three-way race with no one getting a majority before the convention, Lieberman and Clark have no reason to go away.  This could be the best presidential primary season of our lives, for those of us who find presidential politics to be more fun than the NFL playoffs.

If they let me vote [I don't know if they reinstated the members-only rule in Michigan] I'm voting for Joe.  I loved his work in ALF.  I hope he can get ALF on the ticket or at least a prominent place in the Cabinet.

[damonshort]

I would vote for any candidate who would add the tagline:

"My name is _________ and I endorse this message"

to the following:

http://www.hauntedmansion.info/bushin41point2.htm


failing that, from a practical standpoint I'll support the most electable candidate, if he's still running by the time the IL primary is here. Seems like that would be Kerry or Clark, maybe Edwards.

I'm not optimistic about the fall; I expect the ruling class to figure out a way to steal yet another election.

I'm not sure what Bruce means re: Kerry's personal details, but I imagine the so-called 'liberal media' will ferret them out; not enough people seemed to care about Mr. Bush's stellar past, though.

[jason]

Anyone but Bush.

[jim]

that link was excellent, damon!

funny how we haven't heard a word about the stagnant oil pipeline that the senior (Papa) Bush bought last year... that pipeline once carried oil from Iraq through Iran into Russia. Russia had dramatically cut their orders for oil through this pipeline years ago, so the Iraqis stopped sending it. One month before the "war" started, Bush Sr. bought that pipeline, but could not get a hold of the right to use the processing plants in Iraq.
So his son stole them at the cost of hundreds of American lives.
Oh yeah, a few hundred thousand people from Iraq and neighboring countries happened to die as well.

I got this info over the last several months from salon.com, cnn, and nomorefakenews.com.

[shawn]

http://www.funsnap.com/1/bushgirl.swf

[jim]

http://www.wage-slave.org/scorecard.html

http://www.bushorchimp.com/

http://www.realchange.org/bushjr.htm

[myndcraft]

Not a damn one of em.

[damonshort]

Not a damn one of em.

I felt the same way in 1980, so I didn't vote. Reagan won and I've blamed myself ever since.

[mirth]

As much as I want to see #43 ejected from the game this November I just don't see it happening at this point.

I will still certainly do my part to help it happen, but well.... Its gonna be hard.
Hell, this election could shape up to be a repeat of 2000.

[voice of reason]

The President of the United States is the most powerful man in the world and consequently has many extremely difficult decisions to make.  To the person who made the assumption that President Bush's motivation for the war in Iraq was his personal financial well-being, I wonder if you truly searched for information from both perspectives on this war? Do you really believe you have some inside information about the reason for war that very few other people have?  I don't care if George Bush, Sr. did buy a pipeline before the war started; I don't have the same information the President has and will not make ridiculous statements like "jim" has.  If you don't like Bush, thats fine, but do you really think you have the information to prove that he is so corrupt that he sacrificed thousands of lives to make himself a few more million dollars?

[A new guy no more]

I had been looking at this site daily for a few weeks now and enjoying learning about disc golf. I had even considered joining the group.  That came to an end with this subject and a look at the group.

With the last Democrat we had 8 years of the worst President that this country has ever had; ignoring terrorism, leaving the country in recession, turning down a chance to be given Bin Laden, raising taxes, slashing the military, decimating the CIA, lying, disrespect for women, running the country on poll data, appointing radical left wing liberal judicial appointees, and building even a bigger government. No, I'm thankful every day that the radical Florida Court was stopped from stealing the election.

Today we are coming out of the Clinton recession, we are fighting the war on terrorism agressively rather than letting the French guide us, and the radical left wing is being stopped.  Thankfully, Hollywood, Ted Kennedy, trial lawyers, Jesse Jackson, union bosses, the Clintons, and a huge collection of radical groups no longer control our lives.

Although the GOP must stop Bush from some of his own liberal acts; imigration, funding the arts, and drug entitlement programs. He is by far the best President since Reagan.

No, I won't be joining this.  

[jim]

'Bush' and 'liberal acts' cannot be said in the same sentence without dimensions melting into one another. Holy moly, all the Doctor Whos would come together at once (again)!!!
I started this thread for the sole purpose of having a place to vent and have FUN.
This CLUB, as I said before, does not endorse or condemn any candidate of any election anywhere or anytime.
These are PERSONAL viewpoints and opinions. We are NOT a political group and we are NOT lobbyists.
If anyone gets offended by something aid in this "Shoot the Breeze" forum, you may be too high strung to have fun playing disc golf with.  

[mirth]

Well, new guy no more, I'm sorry to say that if thats how you feel then its your loss.

See, most users of this board can recognize that everyone is entitiled to their own viewpoints. If you think that a sampling of 8 out of 64 is indictive of the group then you're wrong.

I hope you would reconsider. Many differing opinions can only serve to make us all better.

[r]

how can any non-liberal not be offended by your comments jim?  you started the thread thinking it would be a fun way to bash conservatives.  you say that we sacrificed lives in iraq for a few dollars and then you question why people would be offended. don't make such extreme comments if you can't handle people calling you out on your ignorance.

[Jon Brakel]

...If anyone gets offended by something said in this "Shoot the Breeze" forum, you may be too high strung to have fun playing disc golf with.

I think this is the only thing that Jim has said in this topic that I can whole heartedly say that I agree with.  

[damonshort]

how can any non-liberal not be offended by your comments jim?  you started the thread thinking it would be a fun way to bash conservatives.  you say that we sacrificed lives in iraq for a few dollars and then you question why people would be offended. don't make such extreme comments if you can't handle people calling you out on your ignorance.

well, r (quite an unusual name, if you don't mind me saying so), at least your opinions seem to be shared by at least 2 other recent contributors. One would almost think you're the same person.

We all know that Jim is probably the most notorious lefty in the club, but the three of you (will there be more?) should really all get together since all of your shots apparently drift to the right....

don't forget to tip your waitress.

[A new guy no more]

I would not be offended by good political discussion.  That's one of the great things about this country and what a lot of Americans have fought and died for. What bothers me is the ruthless "hate for Bush" inspired vile name calling.

Discussing with friends the differences in records and beliefs of candidates is intellegent discourse. Links to web sites that simply spew hate with no substance are offensive. I would think liberals like Liberman or the late Paul Simon, quality men with views that would differ from mine, would likely agree. I would enjoy sitting down and discussing politics with men like that.

For some reason, today's Democrat spends more time trying to freighten seniors and minorities with blatent lies, spreading made up rumors as fact, underminine our military, and spewing hate, than discussion issues. I believe the reason is, that over time the liberal message has been seen to be terribly flawed. Tax and spend does not work. Keeping people dependent on government to keep Democrat power does not work. Murdering the unborn does not work. Being easy on criminals does not work. The UN does not work. Taxing us to prosperity does not work. Socialized medicine does not work. And I could keep going on.

"R" is correct. This thread was not structured to allow intellegent discussion but to invite the hate to come out from the left.  

And yes, I enjoy disc golf and a lot of other sports. But I can do them without the company of offensive people.

[mirth]

They're different people Damon - one uses an AOL dialup & the other a local area Chicago dialup. Of course, it is possible for one person to use multiple dialups but I doubt it in this case.

I'd advise not feeding the trolls, people.

Yes, this thread was started by Jim to talk about the Democratic prospects for 2004. Naturally, it would eventually turn towards making fun of the competition - thats just how discussions like these evolve.