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Mangler

#40
January 10, 2004, 01:45:44 AM
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"The use of drugs is a perverse expression of individualism, antisocial and life-denying,It isn't an assertion of individuality; it's a substitute for it. It's not an attempt to be different when everyone else is becoming more alike; it's a way of copping out. And that's the worst thing you can do."

Mangler

#41
January 10, 2004, 01:49:25 AM
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"The use of drugs is a perverse expression of individualism, antisocial and life-denying,It isn't an assertion of individuality; it's a substitute for it. It's not an attempt to be different when everyone else is becoming more alike; it's a way of copping out. And that's the worst thing you can do."

Mangler

#42
January 10, 2004, 01:52:07 AM
Map Overview (again)
"The use of drugs is a perverse expression of individualism, antisocial and life-denying,It isn't an assertion of individuality; it's a substitute for it. It's not an attempt to be different when everyone else is becoming more alike; it's a way of copping out. And that's the worst thing you can do."

shawn

#43
January 10, 2004, 06:36:55 AM
Sorry but the layout seems to be very hard to take in.   Crossing fairways, sharing baskets....Why?   I can see if this was on private property but on a public course.  Come on now, if you need help ask the club.   I realized that most courses get tweaked to make the flow go better after they are in the ground but come on  what the hell is this?  

How many baskets are at this course?  Why not just have that many holes and multiple tee pads for each hole.  I'm looking at the aerial and see lots of clear space... away from paths, maybe utilize some of the wooded areas.  I don't want to piss anyone off but if someone get seriously hurt, all chances of getting more courses in N. Illinois are shot to hell.    
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Myk

#44
January 10, 2004, 10:25:56 AM
Yeah, I'm enclined to agree with Shawn.  If you follow the layout, once you finish hole one, you have to hike it to hole 2's tee.  On hole 2 you're shooting not only across the fairway of whatever hole that is (I can't read the number clearly), but your shooting right over the tee pad.  That's just bad.  3 is shot from the same tee as 17, so someone's going to have to wait on that shot.  4 shoots across the fairway of 2 holes.  That's just an accident waiting to happen.  I assume that 5 and 16 are shooting off the same tee, so there's more waiting there.  Plus you're shooting into the guys on 15 and the same pin as 14.  It seems vaguely interesting that 6 starts right in the middle of 14's fairway.

Mangler, I'm not trying to say that what you're doing is bad.  I applaud your efforts to get a new course in the ground.  What you have accomplished is amazing.  What I am saying is, as an experienced disc golfer, I will probably never play this course for fear of being cracked in the head by an errant throw.  

Please don't take this personally.  It's nothing against you.  I really do envy you right now.  You get to design a course, how awesome is that.  You should make it a great one that everyone will love to play.
Myk "BC" Deardorf
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CEValkyrie

#45
January 10, 2004, 11:58:53 AM
QuoteShared Targets save money and increase yardage.


I'd like to think that we are somewhat intelligent not to throw into other players or park patrons.
1st, I firmly believe if a park district cannot afford to purchase targets, they cannot maintain a course or replace any stolen or damaged equipment, so why install it?

2nd, I would like to think disc golfers have common sense too. I think "disc golfers" are smart and they could play this course without problems. However, not all players are disc golfers. Many are "chuckers" that play commando style. They are not smart and cause problems. The cannot play a well designed course properly. They will throw at any time without thinking. They are just like those drivers on the expressway, all lanes are blocked so they drive on the shoulder.

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Mangler

#46
January 11, 2004, 11:46:24 AM Last Edit: January 11, 2004, 11:53:11 AM by Mangler
I felt that If I posted.Some Players would take advantage of it and play. This is a proto feel free to do with it what you will. Also 36 Holes here can be enjoyed in less time it can take you to drive to some of the courses in the area. Also if anyone has Ideas of any other spots in Vernon Hills that can work for 18 let the board know. Do your game a favor and play this course...also this course was not commissioned by anyone it is not in anyway sponsored by VHPD.  
"The use of drugs is a perverse expression of individualism, antisocial and life-denying,It isn't an assertion of individuality; it's a substitute for it. It's not an attempt to be different when everyone else is becoming more alike; it's a way of copping out. And that's the worst thing you can do."

mirth

#47
January 12, 2004, 01:51:38 PM
Don't forget this is vernon freaking hills we're talking about here.... Save money, bah. That town's one of the richest on the north shore.
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Myk

#48
January 12, 2004, 04:18:12 PM
Quotealso this course was not commissioned by anyone it is not in anyway sponsored by VHPD.
So let me see if I understand this correctly.  The Vernon Hills Park Disctrict has not agreed to have this course put in?  No one said, "We want a course here," yet?  Basically, you're designing a course for the sake of bringing it to the board so they will approve it and put it in the ground.  Again, I applaud your ideas and your efforts.  What you are doing is amazing.

As far as proposing a course to a park district, I don't think this is the right way to go about it.  In barganing, which is what you'd be doing if you ask the park district to do this, you should always ask for more than what you need, so you can get what you want in the end.  If you ask for 18 holes, you're likely to get less than that.  Especially if the PD doesn't want to spend a lot of cash.  If you really want 18, ask for something like 27 or so.  When the board comes back and says no because it costs to much, you can come back with, "Well, here's a course I put together that would save us $X on  my last proposal."

Just a suggestion.
Myk "BC" Deardorf
PDGA # 21768

jim

#49
January 12, 2004, 06:47:29 PM
Mangler, on Jan 6th, you posted:

"This is a Map of Prototype 18 Course in Vernon Hills Illinois.
I put it together Disc Golfers can go play it. Unfortunately at this time most targets have been taken down."

What were the targets if not baskets? And I'm assuming that they were not baskets if the VHPD did not fund anything. Just curious.

Also, I'd be happy to share the club's Disc Golf Proposal for whomever may see this through.....

Mangler

#50
January 13, 2004, 07:31:54 PM
My plan is to chill on VH. They are rebuilding The two bridges that lead onto and off of the island. Any plan to go forward with The Park District will only involve a group effort Im not interested in it until there is a support base. Granted also alterations would have to be done to any course from any design.
I beleive that if there is room for a Disc Course in a community Im For building one two or three or them. VH is interesting from the point that it is such aheavy duty win for the community and for lake county. Too many reasons not to go ahead with some sort of project.  
"The use of drugs is a perverse expression of individualism, antisocial and life-denying,It isn't an assertion of individuality; it's a substitute for it. It's not an attempt to be different when everyone else is becoming more alike; it's a way of copping out. And that's the worst thing you can do."

Mangler

#51
January 13, 2004, 07:42:55 PM
QuoteI was approached with this design last fall and know the Park District Director very well.  I applaud the efforts, but unfortunately the specific site is very active and safety concerns were prominent.  It is safe to say that he will not recommend the location to his Park Board.  Sorry to bear bad news.....

On a more positive note, Gary Lewis has struck again and installed a great course in Mokena (New Lennox area).  Highlights include multiple tee pads, the use of 1" rubber mats for tee pads, tee pads that are flat but provide drainage, and they utilized fly-ash within the limestone screening subsurface to lock-in the aggregate.
Open Minded Individuals can make great decisions. Education is the key.  
"The use of drugs is a perverse expression of individualism, antisocial and life-denying,It isn't an assertion of individuality; it's a substitute for it. It's not an attempt to be different when everyone else is becoming more alike; it's a way of copping out. And that's the worst thing you can do."

airspuds

#52
January 14, 2004, 05:38:52 AM
6 baskets with 3 tees = 18 holes  

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Mangler

#53
March 24, 2004, 11:56:11 AM
Bridges are Complete...They look Great..This town is busy with Mega Project at Property near VH High School. Mega Plex of Ball Fields Sport Fields Fencing and New Roads..Huge Budget...A Disc Course is not on the Radar.. Plus My Sources Tell me ..This property (little bear lagoon ) is earmarked for a Grand community project that is yet to be revealed by the powers that be. Maybe Cuneo would like  18 ?  
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