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Started by mirth, January 16, 2002, 07:25:36 PM

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jim

I was thinking of making really nice tees for A, B, & C. We can't put down any perm teebox outline, so making them as smooth as possible, maybe even digging down an inch or two, then filling with wood chips.  ON A, we have some large logs which will serve well, but on B & C, we'll have to do some work.

jim

URGENT:

I just spoke with Scott McLean of the WPD.

he said we can pickup the baskets at the WPD on Saturday monring at 7am.

HOWEVER...

the baskets are UNASSEMBLED, but the poles are in 5-gallon buckets of concrete

AND

the WPD will NOT get out to mow the fairway on Hole B

OR

anything else!!!!

Scott claims that they are just too busy with too many timed projects (timed for govmnt grants) and the WPD budget cuts means more work with fewer people.

I AM VERY DISAPPOINTED and ANGRY.

Scott says we still may not chop down anything taller than 2-foot tall.

What to do about Hole B? I see 2 options:

(a) we process as planned, we mow Hole B fairway ourselves somehow, wok like dogs and make it happen

or

(b) quit. bag it all up and learn soccer



Truthfully, (b) is not an option for me.



Most of my weekend has turned to poop since Kirsten will be away for 3 days and I have the kids and parents to take care of. So I will prob be out there tonight and tomorrow night doing what I can.

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE

can I get some help at Bevier at anytime?

If you need instrux, call me or post here.

We'll need rakes, shovels, weedwackers (bigtime) and lots of bodies.  I'll be out there tonight around 5:30.

jim

Thanks to all who will show up whenever!

Mowing now is better. Who knows if it will rain all week next week? Besides, if it is well-worn (how much can we really wear it out in 2 weeks?), it will be better for the event. By well-worn I mean no bad stumps, clean fairways, and crap-free greens.

The grass on B is nearing 3-ft high right now, so it will not be easy. PLus, tons of logs, branches, and rocks need to be moved/cleared. I'll update here tonight.  THANKS AGAIN - see y'all Sat morning I hope!

jim

Does anyone have a sickle?

Yes, I'm serious.

jim

You're right, Brett. Hole B is NOT a "go". Without a major cutting machine (brush hog?), that stuff will be impossible. I looked for alternatives tonight, but nothing seemed plausible for a permanent hole. We might have to wait for the WPD to clear B's fairway; until then, we'll just have 11 baskets. I'd rather have 2 great holes than force a third. I am so disappointed with the WPD.......



Tonight, I worked on Hole A some more. I raked a wider green, pulled up tons of scrub-root-bushes, moved many pointy sticks, took down 2 dead trees, and started separating big, fairway-lining-type branches and other sticks.  As for Saturday, I'm a maybe (Kirsten's out of town for the weekend).



What needs to be done:



Hole A:

-install the basket

-work on the 3 teepads

-remove the last of the dead crap just in back of the basket area

-line the walkway leading up to the tees better

-clear a path going from A's basket back to the Hole 7's tees



Hole C:

-install the basket

-make 2 or 3 teepads (marked with flags)

-spread woodchips (bring buckets or wheelbarrows)

-line fairway with big branches

-clear path from Basket C to creek crossing leading back to 9th tee

-improve "bridge" leading to 9th tee (cannot dam up the creek)



Bring shears, rakes, buckets, shovels, and wheelbarrows.  I will be there at least to meet Brett at 7am at the WPD's offices (Brett, please meet me at the corner of GreenBay and Sunset at 7am - it's 2 blocks away from there) and we'll get the baskets to Bevier.  Today, Scott told me the baskets are unassembled, so I'll bring some tools. He also said that the "bottoms" are in 5-gallon buckets of concrete. I'm not sure I understand, but we'll get it all on Saturday.



If all helpers can make it to Bevier around 8am at Hole A, that would be great. I'll try to remember to bring a coffee-ball. THANKS!!!  Any questions, post here; I may get out again tomorrow night to work more, but unsure......

jim

Excellent!  Thanks, Brett.  I asked Scott if they could at least drop 'em off, but he said no.

I asked about a chipper and/or more woodchips. He said no.

I will be out there for about 2-3 hours on Saturday, but not tonight.

I will bring coffee.  :-)

So far we have Brett, Steve, Jon, Mirth, & me? Cool. Anyone else feel like breaking a sweat for a good cause?



About Hole B:  I stopped and looked at everything again this morning on the way to work. I do not see how we can create the hole w/o major equipment. I also looked over to the East (empty thornbrush area closer to houses). Too flat, too thorny, too blah, too bad. Another wooded hole would infringe on Holes 7 & 16.

We'll get Hole B in when the WPD gets time. Until then, we'll set up another temporary basket for the Widdershins. Maybe we can do the old Blast Hole A. One day under the ComEd wires might not hurt....

jim

That's cool, Steve, whenever you get there.....the coffee might be cold though....

Old Hole A (Blast-01-02) runs completely under the power lines, parallel with new Hole B.  We built a shotty step-bridge and will have to make it safer. Paul nearly killed himself earlier this week...  :-)

Maybe we can whack Old Hole A (let's just call it Hole B for the time being) with a weedwacker to make it just a little wider.  The rough is unsane there.  Lots of prickers and thorns (and still some discs from the last 2 years trapped in there somewhere).

jim

Cool!  Paul will be there as well.

I've never played Hole A......  yet.

jim

This post might be premature, but when I left Bevier today, we replaced Basket #1 with a new Mach 5 (the WPD says they will fix the broken basket sometime this summer - or we can ask Kevin L to do it sooner), Hole C was fitted nicely with another beautiful Mach 5, wood chips, and possibly lined fairway, Hole A was being sunk (yes, a Mach 5) and the fairway's prior grooming was holding up nicely.

Brett, Paul, Mirth, Jon, Jason, Steve, Damon, and myself successfully worked around a WPD screw-up (the way they put the poles in concrete was ludicrous and new holes had to be drilled) and got a ton of stuff accomplished!  THANKS guys!  I hope the coffee held out......

jim

Holes A & C played great today! But I'd still like to do one final clean-up before the Widdershins. The stumps are brutal, and plentiful. Some more small brush can be removed on A and the paths after each holes can be defined better. Other than than, I think we're golden.

How did they play for you guys?

jim

Howdy Chris!  If you see an old red Honda with disc golf stickers plastered on it, you know I'm playing.

I'm out nearly every Wednesday evening, Saturday morning for Junior Leagues, and Sundays for Best Shot Leagues.

I know the weather in SC is much nicer, but you'll still find people out playing in zero weather here.  I hope to see ya and THANKS for all the kind words about our efforts at Bevier (can always be pronounced "Beaver" in a Beavis voice).........

jim

1,2,3,4,5,6,A1,7,8,B1 (when installled), C1, 9

10,11,12,13,14,15,A2,16,17,B2 (ditto), C2, 18

19,20,21,22,23,24,A3,25,26,B3 (again ditto),C3,27



I will most likely be out tomorrow evening for Singles League. If my back is OK, I'll play. If not, I'll heckle everyone. :-)

hope to see you chris.........

jim

We might have room for a small driving range in 4 more years, but it is not a huge priority. More holes and a practice basket are the goals.



AS FOR HOLE "B" . . . . .

Great googily-moogily!  The WPD brushhogged the rough on Hole 7's right side, completely clearing alternate tees 16 and 17. There's not much in the way now.

They also brushhogged an area the worker must have thought was going to be Hole B's fairway. But it is on the wrong side of the treeline which separates the park from ComEd property.  However, the area they cleared makes for a nice, short, wooded hole - and straighter than Hole A - and with a significant water hazard. The creek is wide there and kinda deep and forked as well.  It would be about a 200-220 ft hole if we keep it, which we might.  adrian has agreed to build a bridge for that crossing (leaving the bridge after Hole C and remove the one currently between Holes 8 and C.  Adrian will make this bridge very large and sturdy, reinforced with metal brackets and longer than the creek is wide in case of more future flooding.

I need to talk to the WPD about their intentions (whether this was a mistake or whether they are fearful of the ComEd property right-of-way.

If this stays, it will be a fun wooded hole, but the long tees would be nearly impossible.  This would be a 2-tee max hole.  Go take a look and please give me your opinions.

THANKS to Adrian for building the bridges and completing more of the stump removal process. This will save us tons of time, money, and hassle.

jim

Yep, understood correctly, but it makes it a totally different hole.  Where it is now, there is a tunnel with a pretty complete ceiling running 90% of the length of the hole. No tomahawks unless we purposely clear windows up in the trees.  It would be a sweet, but short, S-curve for righties and a hard very narrow straight shot for lefties.  I really want to have a loooong righty hole with lots of obstacles for the course.  However, I'm not giving up and will dog the WPD tirelessly.

But on the other hand, it is a true wooded shot, and we only have one other ("A"). The tunnel is cool; the water hazard is cool.  Deuces will be tough, even if it is shorter. If we do have to settle for this new placement, it will still provide plenty of challenge. but we'll have to be VERY creative trying to set up 3 tees for this hole. as it is, the tee is pretty close to basket 8 (at least in line-of-sight).

also, i'm very excited to have Adrian working on a new bridge. It will add a lot to the course, to the park, and our credibility.

jim

Welcome JB.

I'm not the head of Bevier, just the course coyote.



Hole A is in the woods to the right of the 6th basket. After that, the path leads back to #7. Hole C is after Hole 8. Continue through the woods to the clearing with the Comm Ed lines. Follow the path to the left and across the creek. The main tee is in between the pines up and to the left. The basket is down the wide path toward the soccer filed and off to the left in a deep alley. After that, follow the small path in the woods across the creek again to the teepad for 9.



Talked to Scott McClean briefly. He'd rather the hole go where they cut. SO let's take lemons and make a tunnel shot. Brett and I agree with 2 tee placments, but disagree of the third. He wants shot, I want long. We'll see. Either way, it will be a low and straight, or low and tight-S-curve. Plus, the creek will be a 10-12 ft. wide obstacle. The basket is slightly uphill and will be next to a very strange dying weepy treebush thang.



I'm still waiting to talk to Trigg and set a date for a sit-down with Brett and whomever wants to be there. I really don't know what he's gonna say about moving/adding a placement for #9.



Bushy bushy hey, bushy hey hey!

jim

You Kenosha boys are EVERYWHERE!  Thanks for the work. Bridge is still secure.  I had another talk with the ATV riders about driving around the new holes. They said they'd be cool.



Hole "B" Update:

I spent about 4 hours out there today and cleared a lot of sticks, logs, roots, branches, and the like. Cleaned up the lining branches on #8 as well. Also roughly raked out 2 teepads. The third one, if it is decided that we have a longer teepad, will need a lot of clearing. BIG pile of dead branches there.

Still MUCH work to do. I never even made it to the basket side of the creek. Let's please have a date or two right after the IO to get this hole finished. It will be a sweet, dangerous, finesse-shot, and truly wooded hole

I plan to work on "B" on Tuesday after Workshop. If anyone wants to join me, meet me at "B" at 7:35pm. THANKS!!!

jim

I now have left 4 messages for Mike Trigg at the WPD.  Hole B needs a lot of work still.  And I mean TONS of work. Several trees & bushes need to be removed, mainly on the basket side of the creek. Lots of bushwhacked stuff remains on the fairway and needs to be cleared.  Rough needs to be cleared more on left and right sides. Sticks and fallen branches need to be mulched. Need to synch with Adrian about bridge timeline.

Hole C: too late for grass seed on fairway? Tee C-3 needs to be cleared again. Really overgrown.



SATURDAY, AUGUST 30:  BEVIER WORK DAY!!!  PLEASE PLAN AHEAD!!!  WE WILL WORK FROM 8AM UNTIL 3PM OR LATER TO MAKE SURE THE COURSE IS READY FOR THE BLAST AND THE REMAINDER OF THE YEAR.

BRING SHEARS, SHOVELS, GARBAGE BAGS, RAKES, BUCKETS AND WHEELBARROWS.  THANKS!!!!

jim

OK........ MODIFIED.

I worked at Bevier for 4 hours on Saturday afternoon after the Fairfield cleanup.  Maaaaaan it was hot!  But I did clear quite a bit. At least 5 scrub bushes, 7 or 8 dead standing trees, over a dozen felled trees, and 2 small barely living scrub trees still standing.  You can now see the bucket from the teepad, but I'd like to move the basket a few yards to the north from where the hole is now. Then it will be a straight shot. I'd like to avoid another lefty hole.

There is plenty of work to do out there!  I spoke to Trigg today, FINALLY!  He is going to check and make sure that there is no baseball/soccer/bologna happening on Sept 20th and will call me back by Wednesday.  He also said he'd talk to the maintenance crew and see when further work was scheduled for Bevier.



I'd like have club members over to my house after leagues on August 17th for the club meeting.

Either I'll bbq or we can order pizza in.  Lemme know.



Bevier Cleanup Day: Saturday, August 23rd.

The course needs a good trash cleanup and Holes B & C could use a lot of work.

Please help.

jim

Checked out the work remaining for Hole B. Lots of it. Please come out this Saturday if you're not going to Rumbletown. I'll be out there about 8:00 Saturday morning. Please bring buckets, rakes, saws, shovels, shears, garbage bags, extra gloves. I'll provide the OFF. and the coffee. That early in the a.m. the mosquitos shouldn't be too bad.



I'm also bringing my mower to get the tees on "C". Lots of garbage on the wooded holes as well. THANKS in advance!

jim

So far for Saturday:

Jim, Paul, Chud, Jason



If you can only help for an hour, please come on out! We'll be there from 8am-11 or noon.